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Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - The best club I've been to in that area is called Fun 4 Two. It's huge. The facilities are upscale European, hidden inside a rural setting. The hot tub seats about 20 comfortably & is comparable to genuine Roman baths that I've seen in Italy. The food is pretty good. The play rooms are varied & numerous. The place is well kept. Parking is safe. The neighborhood is good. The overnight accommodations are limited in number, but excellent. The clientele was about 50% Dutch, 20% German, 10% French & 20% other. I was probably the only American there. English was spoken by about 80% of the people there, when needed. I think that the drive was roughly 45 minutes from downtown Amsterdam if you don't get lost. Bring a GPS if you go. They have different themes on different weekends & I think that new applicants are only allowed 3 of the 4 weekends per month. Check their website for details. The first time I was there, the place was an absolute blast. The last time, it had become a little more edgy, but was still very good. The owners/hosts (Laurens & Renika) are good people. Deal with them directly whenever possible. Try to arrive properly dressed. If you need to buy things from their in-house shop to make dress code at the last minute, it can get expensive. I also went to another club in Amsterdam proper that was said to be a swing club. It was actually a brothel inside a bar. I didn't stay to play. There is a club there called Fatima Morgana that sounded promising, but I have not had time to try it yet. Another place called Kasteel Waterloo was recommended to me & sounds very promising, but I have not been there yet either. That place is probably a much longer drive. In Amsterdam, there are at least 3 classifications of sex clubs. The actual swingers clubs are called parren clubs. If you need help finding accommodations, transportation, or any of the other usual types of travel assistance, you can go to the tourist office, marked VVV, but pronounced "fee fee fee". One is located in Schipol airport. Another is located at the train station in Amsterdam. The people there were very helpful & found us very good deals on everything that we needed. Please let me know if you need more information. I travel to Europe often & know my way around fairly well.

Gangbang - Finding men to gangbang wife - [quote=SLOWHAND311]Ah the monumental task of setting up a Gang bang.. If you want 4-8 you better have RSVPs from 8-15 since many may sign up but most won't show, unless you find a bachelor party, or hand out open invitations at a strip club, it's not an east situation to set up, even with days or weeks to organize it. Luckily one I set up that only one guy out of 7 showed up, had some good folks (four couples),here that filled in, and ended up a great night, and the woman got her gang bang, and the rest had lots of fun too. So I wish you success, it's almost as difficult as finding the perfect unicorn, but it can be done, just be patient and screen the men well, and invite several more than you need. [/quote] Funny reading posts like these I 100% agree with you, and at the same time, 100% disagree. About a year or so ago we thought about doing this and found a guy on another forum that set them up. During that year he has talked to my wife about doing one for her. So this Friday everything aligned that we could attend. He set it up for my wife and one other girl. he had 8-10 coming possibly 12. We said we would stop by, which we did, and the 8-12 equaled 1 and for him wife said "not in a million years" so we ended up having a fun mff with her and went home. BUT, from our personal experience we have done a total of 5 of these parties and they have not only been successful, we have always had more guys than we planned. The first was not planned, we were in Germany and the wife was drunk texting 4 potential playmates and gave them all the hotel address and time. Thinking of the normal Utah flake rate (as posted above by many) we expected 1 or maybe another arriving later. Well in Germany they show up! and when you say sorry she is playing, they don't care and just want to join or have others join. So we had a fun night of my wife taking 4 different cocks, having to shower twice from cumshots (she says getting a dual facial is an unforgettable feeling) and she has loved multiple guys since. Since that night we have done 4 other successful ones here in Utah, through this Forum. I could write a novel on the do's and don'ts but I won't. First write down exactly what you want, and when you advertise for it, use what you wrote down. I mean think about it, posting up "I want a bunch of guys to come gangbang my wife" is going to net you an inbox full of undesirables, cheaters, fake couple profiles with a "hall pass" - basically a bunch of dudes that came here to try to get laid. They failed vanilla, stopped here for a go with swingers, and next is stop is Fet life. Is this who you want taking turns with your wife? With all the disappointing stories above, I see a trend of likely bad advertising and poor planning. It's no knock on anyone, swinger parties (drinking and grabbing ass till 2:00 a.m.), play parties/orgies (where you answer the "how many other couples are coming" question 200 times the night of)are completely different than a gangbang. You make a simple post with no rules or structure then wade through an inbox FULL or crap and red flags. What you don't see is your post also is full of red flags for the people you actually want. These guys have done this before, and find performing for your wife and everyone watching exhilarating and are always looking for the next amazing rush. But they see your post, like your wife on the profile, but then they think - am I going to make all the preparations, drive there, show up on time to a room full of undesirables, wait for my turn to give said performance, and while trying to put on a show, having clothed people showing up late, drunk dudes talking because - wife said no way, or they can't get it up? Why would guys like this, the ones you want, show up to this? They likely have 5 hot wives they could play with on a Friday night. They want a true gangbang with a non talkative group of their peers, having rules, and trying to WIN the best performance of the night. The kind the other ladies in the room see and say "me next! Please!" What happens is they look over your post, look who is posting in it and kindly pass. Maybe sometimes they contact you and ask questions first, to find out if it is going to be worth it, and kindly pass as it seems like a numbers "quantity" game. Sorry, just my 0.02. Maybe part of the problem is not the guys, but the planner and the original post.

Cruise in May - Anybody going on this same one by chance - My Wife and I are going on a cruise the week of May 12th out of Long Beach to Catalina Islands and Ensenada Mexico on Carnival... we were wondering if there are other swingers going to be on that one by chance. We are also going with another couple in the LS, the more the merrier right?

Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned. One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote] Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious? Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?

Xmas carols for swingers. - - I'd check the DNA, and maybe we'll get lucky and it will be Elvis's and we can sell it on ebay. After all that is what we asked Santa for Christmas this year.

swinging... - - It was my idea at first to swing with some good friends of ours.... Very bad idea..... The swingers site was his idea.... Very good idea!!!!!!

Desire vs hedonism - - I know there have been similar topics, but I couldn't find them in the forums. So starting a new thread. To the people that have been to both hedo and desire, which would u prefer? I thought secrets and excellence were swinger resorts too, but now I can't find any evidence to support that. Anybody been to excellence or secrets and can tell me if its for swingers?

CIVIL RIGHTS - How it can affect swinging. -

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - I think we are late to the party..