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Honeybears23 - Couple - Looking for swingers over 50 for fun times in Virginia

couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - I was a single guy for a while. The difference for me was that I was out having fun with my friends. The fact that we were all swingers didnt make having sex a necessity. As a matter of fact, if youre a single guy in the lifestyle for a long period of time then you are probably doing something wrong. I met Holly in the lifestyle and we were both singles. We hit it off and now we play together as a couple. I hear the single guy compliants about lifestyle and ask myself 'Why would you bother?'. Its not for everyone. If you arent successful, maybe thats lifes way of tell you to try another road. You obviously arent very respectful of other people choices about their preferences within the lifestyle. Respect is everything in lifestyle. ***From the female side of this couple*** To the gentleman that started this thread. If you want to know why most people dont want single guys, you only have to look at your profile to know why. Seriously.

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote=jv666playful]sorry Evildoers but stupid people get my goat [/quote] Look, I hear where you're coming from. But I sort of know this guy. Never actually met him, but there was some, I guess you could say, interaction through emails. And he sort of screwed something up, kind of embarrassed me with someone else, and pissed me off. For a minute. And the reason it was only for a minute (the fact that she thought it wasn't a big thing helped, I'll admit) was that he'd made an honest, but sort of clueless, mistake. And that he really wasn't aware that not doing what you say you're going to, and not letting anyone know until the very last minute when you could have let them know a lot sooner, is a much bigger thing here than it is in the vanilla world. But now he does know, and I'd be amazed if he ever did anything like that again. And my read on him is that he isn't stupid, just ignorant, a basically nice guy trying to figure out how to navigate in an unknown territory. And yeah, this is a topic that keeps coming up. But you know what? I suspect that the guys that bring it up are actually serious about the lifestyle, and that the ones who try it and find out it wasn't the "all the girls want to fuck" scene they thought it would be just shrug their shoulders and go back to the bars. I I suspect that a lot of swingers didn't get into it until they were a couple. And I also suspect that they might not realize what it's like for a single guy, if he's one that isn't just trying to find a quick and easy way to get laid. Believe it or not, not all of them are. Me, it's a case of been there, done that. Back when "free love" was all the rage, before Herpes, AIDS, or any other really serious STD, when any guy who couldn't go out on just about any Friday night and end up in bed with some girl had to be either the Hunchback of Notre Dame or a complete and total asshole,I was a single male in the lifestyle. I sure as Hell wasn't trying to find an easy way to get laid, in those days it didn't take much of an effort at all. And you'd think swinging was easier then, with sex being such a casual, no big deal, thing. But it was actually even harder and more complicated. As Evil said, it was called wife swapping, and it was a seriously bad thing as far as society was concerned. Swinger functions, like Sinful Saturdays, Risquee Soiree stuff, Meet n Greets? No way, Jose. There were only private, invite only, parties. There wasn't any internet, if someone was silly enough to try to set something like that up and advertise in the papers (the only avenue available then), no paper was going to take the ad. Everything was word of mouth, and that word pretty much only went to couples. It was actually dangerous. There were cases (not a lot, thankfully, but some) of the local police somehow finding out about a wife swapping party, raiding it, and hitting everyone there with morals charges. Which could even cost people their jobs. That was in the '70s, it did start to sort of loosen up in the '80s, which is when I left the country and the scene, but it was still more complicated than it is today, with no internet and everything word of mouth and single men by invitation only. So why did I bother, when sex was so damned easy to find everywhere? I LIKED these people, that's why. They were ignoring what everyone thought they should or shouldn't do, and were doing what they thought was right for them. Which is how I've believed, since I was maybe 15, that everyone should be. Point being, not all single males are JUST trying to get laid. So if someone comes along who takes the time and effort to ask how he can navigate what are some pretty treacherous waters, I think he deserves to be treated as if he's serious, just a little clueless, and not be ridiculed for it. Hell, even Evil, who's quicker than anyone I know to jump on utter stupidity with both feet, and ridicule the Hell out of it, gave the guy a break and some good, if blatant and not sugar coated, advice.

Secret facebook group for SLC? - - We recently joined a secret FB group for swingers with lots of super nice and sexy people. However it appears that most members, at least the active ones, are in Ogden which is bit far for us. Are there any secret FB groups for swingers for SLC?

Cap d'Agde - Has anyone been there? - We were there last year in August for a week and are going back again this year. This is lengthy so I apologize in advance. If you want to know more just DM us privately. It is very unique. Nothing like it anywhere in the world. During holiday (July - September) there can be up to 70,000 people in the village at any time. It feels like half of them are naturalists the other half would be swingers. The village is fenced and you do need to pay for a day pass but it's not expensive. The point is that it's a closed community so everyone is friendly, nice and chill. The village was created years ago as a vacation destination for naturalists but has been taken over by swingers just because swingers spend more money so it has been turned into catering to that crowd. Flying into Montpelier airport is smart and cab rides to the village from the airport is only about 100 Euro from there. There are few hotels but its smarter to book an apartment on booking.com or better yet... a local french apartment booking site. You can also camp (huge camp site) but if your flying in then that is probably a bad idea. We have rented an apartment in heliopolis and this year we rented a house in the neighborhood. It's not cheap so plan on anywhere from 400 to 800 per night. Be prepared for very few American tourists. Mostly french, dutch, germans etc... Everyone is respectful and nice. Most are fine speaking english but that could turn on you quickly if you're not careful and respectful. We really had the feeling that this was a European vacation for Europeans. They aren't expecting the typical American tourist. There are several pool party clubs that are open during the day but are super crowded. These pools are usually indoor/outdoor in a club and its very common to see many people playing in the pool and on the side. It's definitely a huge party. It also costs about 50-100 Euro per couple per day pass. At night there are 4 good swinger clubs in the village. It's about 75 Euro to enter but you get a couple drink passes included. Upstairs is usually bright and good for lounging. Basements have large and complex array of playrooms. People aren't pushy and you have lots of options based on how many people you want to include in your situation. The village has at least 4 grocery stores, multiple bakeries and tons of restaurants, bars, lingerie shops etc. It's amazing to walk around naked during the day and lingerie with heels at night all around the village. You need to wear clothes when you go to bars/restaurants/clubs but can opt to be naked in the grocery store. It's trippy but very freeing. Beach has sections for families, nudists and the last section is for swingers. That section is crazy. Expect a load of single men, impromptu blowbangs/gangbangs and public sex during the day at the beach. People aren't pushy so you shouldn't be worried but it may be wise to not wander back into the dunes. Search for Cap d'Adge in PornHub if you are really curious. Those videos are 100% accurate. European swingers are a bit different. We found the people to be stunning. Beautiful, educated, smart and sexy. But flirting is different in Europe. It's common for someone to not flirt or even make eye contact but then suddenly ask you if you're interested in playing in the playroom. The village is so large that you have to insert yourself if you want to turn it up. We liked walking to the beach during the day, grabbing a salad at the market for lunch then dressing up (think Desire theme night or burning man) at night to go to dinner with a club afterwards. Legit - one of the best european vacations ever. We loved it.

Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - First off, let me introduce ourselves, My name is Dan and My darker half is Tasha, one hot chocolate martini :) We have yet to make it out to many parties, as a couple but did manage to do so the other night with tbl and had a blast. Great people, relaxed, no "you gotta go home with me because I showed up" complexes were evident. Having been on both sides of the fence, I actually wrote an article a few years ago called "being swingle", kind of ironic? no? lol. Playing as a single male comes down to at least for me at the time to enjoying threesomes, group, and the stress free situation of "dating". It was easier to hang out with couples who were friends, but in reality, the third wheel complex eventually sets in. There is an etiquette to it. Always add to the party, never look to "loot it", or "steal the cookie" as Tasha puts it. Kinda like showing up at your friends house when moms got food cooking, you know your gonna eat, but don't dare reach for the big piece of chicken lmao. Unfortunately, like all of us at some point in their lives there was that one time at band camp...oops wait, that's another story... back to the point, sometime in our lives we run into the one alpha male super stud God's gift to women who all should bow down and adore...*(pause to hurl)* who just doesn't understand that not every woman at the party wants to, needs to, or even remotely desires to be on his menu. Tasha said it much less kind :) these guys do make an impact, cause issues, and otherwise can ruin the hours of planning and expense that the hosts have put in to see that the party is a great one! Rules should be as simple as an RSVP Invitation, with a Plus one if a couple wishes to bring a single male who they can personally vouch for. It also let's the plus one have someone they can play with and not feel the need to bunny hop the honey pots ;) But I digress, Single guys, its as simple as coming out to the less "house party" type events and let people get to know you, then you may be invited to the more intimate parties. There are REAL stamps on this site, earn em. Problem solved. As for how the rest of us that I know of feel about the whole thing? Swinging is like the intelligent gentleman said before, swinging is for swingers, swingers are couples, wanna add party favors, bring your own...and share them if you like. Personally, and realistically, the couples who play and enjoy this lifestyle together at least have some semblance of security knowing the general family of people who are playing are committed to being safe for their playmates and their spouses/selves. Stepping off 3am soapbox and curling up with a chocolate bunny, think i'm gonna nibble her ear...if I can keep the dog from ear blocking me :) lmao

hosting parties - would love to hear from everyone - [quote=SLCWANDERLUST]I have to echo Sara. People don't know how to RSVP. Put that in your invite. If it is a small house party RSVPing is mandatory. If you plan to fill your house to the rafters with drunken swingers a few couples more or less isn't a problem. One way to force RSVP's is to not give out address until you get an RSVP. There is a book called "Loving More" I don't know if it is available any more. It is a little dated. tells you how to find couples through personal ads! but the info on throwing a party is good. [/quote] Good points....We had planned on using the address thing to help solidify the rsvps...We have room for quite a few...as long as they all play nice..LOL But not sure we want to fill the place to the rafters...LOL Knowing at least approximately how many are coming is pretty vital info..we think. Sorta reminds me of that old song.."Four and Twenty Virgins"...LOL

Comfort level of casual vs relationships? - - We are still fairly new to this whole lifestyle shindig; just under a year. Trying to figure what aspects we like, don’t like and are just meh. I’m curious though, when it comes to forming emotional connections with other people how open are you to the idea? If it’s a scale of 1 - 10. One being completely casual, “what was your name again” sex and two being “I deeply love you and want you to come live with me and my other two wives” sort of deal... where do you fall? ::: For us we are discovering that we prefer the more connective experiences and don’t shy away from words like “love” or “relationship”. But we also love just super casual fun experiences. All of it entirely contingent on the people involved. So not quite true swingers but also not quite true poly. Trying to see how common or uncommon that is.

What do you like most about lifestyles? - - In theory, the lifestyle is perfect for us. We have never regretted starting this adventure and still believe that it is right for us. We have met some wonderful friends and have had many very erotic and fun experiences. Can you feel the "but" coming here. LOL. We are beginning to see the very things we came to the lifestyle to avoid popping up everywhere. Closed-mindness, judgment, and dishonesty are invading the ranks. It is our belief that the lifestyle is supposed to be about open-mindness, acceptance, freedom, and fun. Other words also come to mind like variety, new experiences, non-judgment, truth, love, and joy. BUT (there it is), not only are we judged by the "vanilla" world (and that is okay; we expected that), we are judged by our own. You are too fat, you are too old, you have tatoos, etc., etc. A couple actually told us that we were incompatible because I had tatoos. One on each arm- OMG! LOL. We realize that people have preferences, but come on, two tatoos? It is not like I am the illustrated man. My point is this: let's not judge each other when we don't even know each other, let's not create social classes within our lifestyle, and , for God's sake people. let's be honest with each other. If you are on a swingers site to get your rocks off by cyber-chatting, then disclose to others what you are doing and wanting. Don't tell people you are going to meet them when you have no intention of doing so. Don't act like you are a couple when you are a single male or a cheating husband. Most of us are doing this to meet good people and have good sex. Let us do that without having to wade through dishonesty and hypocrisy. Let's do what we came here for--HAVE FUN! We love the lifestyle and, for the most part, love the wonderful people we have met. Let's keep it going and not ruin it.

Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Yeah, no...I think she just has a garment fetish. [em]Emo_67[/em] LOL