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Anyone else getting sick of clubs - - I think a house party would be awesome....never been to one though. I keep moving so I have few friends. I come from Oklahoma "bible belt" so friends that understand and accept the lifestyle my husband and I desire are hard to find. In Tucson,AZ now and I am trying to figure out where to move after here to be overwhelmed by the freedoms true "swingers" offer! Any suggestions?
Swingers gone bad?? - -
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MORALITY is irrelevant. Statutory law is what reigns supreme. If they are breaking the law, then they should accept the consequences. Many European countries allow 14 year olds the right to consent to sex and marriage at 16. These decisions were made by the majority of the people in the country. Here the age of consent varies from state to state in regard to consent with other minors and 18 for most with regard to adults. Whether you are male or female, the law applies. If it is illegal to consent before 18, then it is illegal, regardless of your dogma.
I seem to recall seeing a story on television about a russian (I think that was the nationality) couple that immigrated here with their two children. The country (eludes my recollection), they were from it is customary for parents to "pat" the gentinal area of the child as a means of reassurance or some such bullshit. According to the story it was a non-sexual gesture and a common custom in their country. The father was seen at a local school sporting event do this to the daughter, by another child's parent, and the man and his wife had their children taken away. This is a perfect example of what I mean. While to them, the contact was liken to a football player smackin another player on the ass as a way of saying "good game", it is not tolerated as such here. Anyway, I can't remember all of the details, but you can see what I mean. If 18 is the age of consent, 18 is the fuckin age. Laws and customs of the land are what matter. When in Rome....
-Don-
"Sic vis pacem, para bellum"
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Verified "Real" People - - One of the biggest reasons I am in the lifestyle is because everything that I know from the couples, sf and sm I associate with. Is it is wrapped in honesty, trust, respect and dignity. The swingers I hang with must be the most amazing out there because this is not allowed with any of them
The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
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Phil
Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - [quote=Harleynight12345678]Are singles invited?[/quote]
Well that's a Harley the Misses would like to ride!
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I thought it was a pineapple upside down in your cart. I do it once in a while to see if I get a reaction from anyone.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - We agree. SOMEWHENTIME , where did you get yours? What type of ring would you all prefer? Do you like the idea of the silicone rings. Hell we could even print on it your preference. MW4MW OR MMF MFF whatever it may be.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - My husband has served in the USMC before we were married. Both my husband and I have been in Public Safety. (Him in the Fire Service and I in Law Enforcement and later attorney.) We have first hand knowledge of the sacrifices we and other Americans in uniform give. We speak as one (and it looks like others) in our Pride we have for our Nation. Under God and will do everything to fight for the rights of all who share in our ideals.
For those who don
Have Diapers...will travel. - Funny, not so funny...the Love Triangle from Space. - I just want to know how the things she had packed up (along with the pepper spray) were going to be used - this was one smart USAF/NASA trained lady so she had to have some great plan to make use of it all. If she would have only been a swinger the triangle thing would have been much less of a problem :-) Swingers In Space ". . . .or would you like swing on a star . . . ."
Max
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