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Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote]
That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand.
I am glad that my post was read and responded to.
I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common.
Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - the palms of your hands do not count as friends.and giving your dad a blow job isn't a real job.
hey jst if you look at the picture i would say she is closer to 180 than 136
is it true about swingular??????????????????? - - We will ask that question on the Aug the 16th (Swingular) is coming to Club Elite and parting with all the Tampa Bay Area Swingers....should be a Hot Time.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I'm far from PC, but there are some things I don't find funny.
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Perfect post TG!
Weve had a couple of interesting experiences, we learn from it and try to recognize the red flags when they pop up.
Christain Swingers? - - Respecting what Karl Marx said doesn't make you a communist.....he was right. It all boils down to fear, the Christian religion uses it, and so does the republican party. Why you ask? Because it's easier to control people when they are afraid.I don't understand how anyone who is free with their sexualitty can be either a Christian, or a republican....but that's just me. I mean it's not liberals that wanna ban pornography, or ban a womans right to do what she wants with her body. In my humble opinion, if you don't like abortion, don't fucking have one, period, end of discussion. Btw, If you disagree, I'm a liberal, I think you have a right to do so, I don't think you should have to stand in "free speech zones" , or be a registered republican to address your president. But this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - We agree that name dropping is a bad thing and in the few years that we have been in this lifestyle we have only had one bad experience and the funny thing is when we vaguely describe the experience only when asked (this means NO names, ScreenNames, locations or anything like that) we ALWAYS get the same response... Ohh so you met "ScreenName" too... our mouth usually hits the floor with the "how the fuck" look.
but other than that we would never kiss n tell because its no one else's business who we have or have not met or been with .
Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
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