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We are going to Vegas and want to do something sexy - Please share your ideas on what we can do - Has anyone visited any of the clubs and what has been your experiences. The wife and I are headed to Vegas July 15th - July 22nd We are specifically looking at Green Door, Red Rooster and Swingers Circle. Not sure which we are going to yet.
Do you disclose your STD - - there is a swingers site for people with herpes,
generally one would want to become friends before having sex, if you are in contact regularly, they are not going to infect you intentionally, so dont have one night stands and sex with people whos identities are unknown. also any virus can be killed by making it resonate, the resonating frequencie for herpes is
simplex1, 291.25-293.05 KHz
simplex2, 353.9-362.9 KHz
zoster, 416.6--420.2
one would need to purchase a frequency generator
i got mine at www.drclark.com, and no i dont have herpes, the fact is that every parasite and virus has its own resonating frequecie
Why are there prostitutes on Swingular? - - [quote=ANONYMOUS]Cool. Swingular is craigslist/backpage now. That's definitely what we all want.. to be solicited by stupid prostitutes. [/quote]
The debate has raged for decades about the validity of single males to be called "swingers". I'd go so far as to say the complaints about unsolicited messages from single males far outweigh those of sex workers on this site. (Please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong). In our opinion, this seems like a very minor annoyance, and just a reason to bitch about something. Delete. Move on. Simple stuff.
Question for women - Bi sex - I dunno, althought communication is key I to was curious about f/f sex but would never go through with the arranging of it myself. I figured if it happened then wonderful but if it was up to me then it would never happen. My husband took the bull by the horns and took me to a club where it was for swingers, of course, I went on my own free will, but he arranged the night out, and made the plans, and didnt tell me a thing till we got there. That way I didnt needta think about it. Although we had talked about it, and he knew that I was willing, but just to shy to ever make the move. I was worried also about reputation because we lived in a small area he took me out of town, which relaxed me a ton. It was fun, and I wasnt mad Iwas excited to go in and glad I didnt haveta make the decision or make the first move towards going through with our fantasy. It was a nice relief. We had a good time and it made me more relaxed for more involvement. Just discuss what she would like to do and ask her if maybe you arranged the meeting all your own so she didnt need to worry bout anything and made it for out of town would she go along with it, and then suprise her if she indicates that it would be okay.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - We have a 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab SLT 4x4 and a 2011 Suzuki Kizashi SE!!!!
If your family or non swinging friends found out you swing - - In UT it has some different connotations because of the predominant religion here. Although a few of the people we have met are still practicing, it is definately frowned upon and the majority have parents or family that are still card carrying (*UT JOKE) members.
So, that the big risk of being found out, but they way we look at it, if my family came to me and said "so and so said that you were swingers...." my response would be "my sex life is private, just like yours, and if you want to tell me how your wife likes it and give me all the sordid details of your sex life, then I can answer your question, if not, we both can go on our merry way and not delve into each others sex lives, where it is none of our business anyhow!"
Elusive FMF - Your thoughts? - Hello All!
Forgive the long post - but I simply wanted to respond to what VP stated SO well.
Posted by VP:
Here's a question:
Is it that a single swinging female is all that elusive, or is it just more likely that a woman who's secure enough in who she is to have a liberated lifestyle is probably more likely to have a boyfriend / husband? Thus making it a simple fact of life and society that the whole concept of a liberated single female is for the most part a myth or at best a temporary state.
Guys are programmed to be tomcats. There comes a time when "every boy must become a man". But little girls are taught that "sex is something only for your husband".
Society accepts single males prowling about generally - that's why when a single guy get shat upon in a swingers site, the resultant wailing bears striking resemblance to a chorus of whining mules. They don't get it: "They don't like me? Why? I'm hot..." Now if a woman were to go out there looking for it, then she's branded a home-wrecker, "slut", "whore", or worse. Tell me you'd sign up for that cruise?
IMHO: I think when a couple starts kvetching about the lack of single females, they might do well to have a look at why it is that they want just a woman and not her S/O. Chances are, deep down those same paradigms that are causing the lack of single females are deeply rooted in their own attitudes.
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From the "not so elusive" Te:
From my perspective I would have to agree with these statements wholeheartedly. I
Why swingers are happier. - - They have booze. We got snookered on wine at the little Cajun restaurant in Pirates of the Carribean then Ms. Evil gave me head on the It's A Small World ride. Still get a chubby when I hear that song.
How did you start the lifestyle? - - I was invited to be in a couple of amateur porn movies back in the 80's. It was after the first gang-bang scene that the cameraman gave me an issue of a swingers magazine. Did the whole thing with the PO box and snailmail. Which wasnt easy, even if you live and worked close to home. I was driving over the road, so meeting other swingers was almost impossible. Eventually the internet came along and sites like SDC, Fantasyswingers and Swingular made contacting people so much easier.
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
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