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OK, the smell just pissd you off what do you do? - - You know, I was thinking the other day there should be a swingers guidebook. For instance ladies, its nice of us to shave, wash up, etc "down there". But then go ruin all your work by peeing and not washing again with soap and water.........and then expect your guy (or some one else ;) ) to want to eat you and spend time doing it? Prolly not. Oh, and skip the bath powders and feminine deoderant down there if you want to be eaten. Pussy has a flavor, and its probably better than the taste of Johnsons and Johnson baby powder. Same for guys. yes, the phrase is shit, shower, shave. In that order please. And if you think you might ber going out later to have sex, or oral, and you are a guy, skip putting salt all over everything. Makes "everything" more salty. And if you are a lady, skip spaghetti loaded with garlic for dinner. Just in case.........

geting in LOVE while swinging - - Someone mentioned Polyamory. Poly people, at least in most communities, feel that swinging and poly are not compatible.. Fact is, why not? If you are open and honest about your poly leanings and totally honest with your mate and any relationships you may have... then why not poly as well. I know that several people in here and on other sites, swingers feel threatened if you are overtly open abut your feelings. If one truely loves and trusts their partner/SO/wives; husbands/girlfriends; bopyfriends and whatever other relationships that I may have missed, they should not be threatened. If you fall in love with someone that you have sex with.... you have 2 choices..... Tell that person and their spouse and your spouce and see where it goes or simply walk away with the thoughts and get on with your life. The 3rd option is not an option.... If one is poly...thier primary relationship/s take precedence. It is my belief that poly and swinging are not only compatable but that if love happens when one least expects it it has to be handled. Even the vanilla schmuck sees or talks to others and sometimes form closer relationships but don't wish that to affect their perfect marriage. How is that handled? Sometimes it simply cools down or sometimes it ends in a short or long term relationship with or without sex. So as they used to say on the TV sitcom Carter Country....."Han.dl it Han..dl it" Remember the old sage who said "shit happens"

Psychology Research - I need help with a research project. - I would like to thank everyone who did the research survey for me. I hypothesized that non swingers would view us as more capable of deviant behavior like using drugs and alcohol in large amounts. I was correct. I hypothesized that swingers were more likely to use positive methods to handle relationship conflicts and I was also correct. I also hypothesized that swingers would have high openness to new things and high extroversion. We did find that swingers were more open to new experience but there wasn't enough on the other. Something we found interesting was that non swingers used more aggressive methods to solve relationship conflicts and they had high sexual depression. My teacher is talking about possibly working on this to get it published. I am beyond happy that I can show us in a better and more recent light. Thank you all for your help. If you have any question let me know.

Porn - - (from Terry) We have to remember that the people making porn aren't doing it for our actual personal pleasure or even our entertainment. They're in it as a business. So they want to pump out, as quickly as possible, whatever will have the largest audience. Or what they think will have the largest audience. I think that's why they do so many shots of the guy's dick pumping in and out of her pussy or her ass, so many shots of just her face and his dick while she's sucking it, of the girl's tongue in the other girl's pussy, etc. Apparently, either that's what really does it for most people or it's what they think does it for most people. I find 5 minutes of a dick pumping a pussy, or of the other kinds of things I mentioned, boring. Yeah, I do want to see the actual "sex", but I also want to see the people, not just the parts of them that are involved directly in whatever sex act it is. I want to see how they feel, how they react to each other. And I want to see what led up to the sex act, how they got there, and not one of the ridiculously phony scenarios that most porn vids use. But we also have to remember that we're a minority. Even with all the diversity among swingers, we do have one thing in common, which is a different overall attitude towards sex than that which those living in the vanilla world have. If that weren't the case, we .wouldn't be here. There wouldn't even be a lifestyle, because it would be what everybody did. So it isn

So what attracted you to swinging and at what point in your life - - I married the man who helped me escape my virginity....we were each others first time. We had college friends who were swingers and when I started to feel trapped and agitated about monogamy at age 21, it was natural for us to consider the lifestyle as the best of both worlds.

How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there. But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate. The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging. Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke. We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.

Swing Fit Travels - Travel plans for those wanting to work out - OK, I'm sure I already know the interest level here based on prior posts I've made but what the hell. Is anyone interested in a Swing Fit Travel arrangements? This would be an exercise vacation for Swingers. The involvement level vary from those able to do cardio for 10 hours to those looking to learn and burn (learn to workout and burn calories.) One thing would be paramount: all attendees would be bonafide Swingers. No BS about that. Anyone up for that? I'm thinking of a resort takeover someplace in the US so it is near and easy to get to. Going to Mexico or the Caribbean would be nice but costly. We could even go to Vegas. If you are serious about your weight and knowledge, let me know. Mav

Sexy Couple Seeking Single Female or Male for 3-way Fun! - - Cheating on a spouse goes against everything swingers stand for. We are here to have fun with consenting adults who, if married, do not hide their play from their SO. We, and most everyone else, will not aid someone in their deception which will hurt someone else.

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - [quote=EVILDOERS] We may have to agree to disagree here. We've been in the lifestyle for almost 3 decades and have talked to countless people (yes, many of them even women-haha) who have talked openly about the fantasies they have and have had and sometimes, sadly, how often those fantasies were stifled to some degree or another by societal expectations and repression as well as suppressed by how they were raised by their parents (especially their mothers..."Good girls don't do/say/think things like that."). [/quote] This is just anecdotal and you are failing to realize that you are talking to them in a LS scenario where everyone wants to be the super open and cool movie star-like swingers. Same reason all SM's in the LS are respectful, kind and the Good Lord's gift to couples seeking MFM or even the ones that are not. We all play The Imitation Game. They will talk to you openly, honestly, will tell you how much they enjoy it, how healthy for their relationship is. It almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. But, unless you were raised in a far away land where the LS was a norm and that we all know it has never existed, these confessions are an integral part of the illusion. And, if you take all that at face value, you are lying to yourself and even worst, believing it. [quote=EVILDOERS] It seems more than just a little condescending and even a little bit misogynistic.[/quote] I've been called worst lol. It's just biology, we think we are this almighty superior species, key to the universe, chosen to be sovereigns of all when all we are is just mammals with an unusually large brain victims of our own imagination and gullibility for the most part. And yes, imagination is sometimes good, that's how we got to the moon. But that's also why when you go to an Indian casino, you only see pictures last dozen big winners from last year but you don't see the thousands of losers of this week. Most of us are trapped in a dream and think we can make our own reality. "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." -Ecclesiastes 1:9

"Seriousity. "Hey, Bitches, Where's the Humor? Seriously? - A Hypocritical Post? - [quote=TIFFND]Boy...THAT really frosts my ass when I make a comment to the op and I get get ignored! Hmmmmmmph!! I better start a thread about that... [/quote] LOL, I KNOW, you beat me to the post by three minutes, I was quoting and pasting and missed yours along the way! Well I guess I deserve a good spanking from you too! (I'm really not into s/m or anything so I don't really know how all these spanking references are jumping out of me!! ) But more seriously, I love your light-hearted response to my poor cutting/pasting ability, and your 2nd response here is actually a great example of someone who can be more easy going about it and not take EVERY FREAKING thing here so seriously. I don't know about other folks but I'd way rather play with playful swingers than uptight ones