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Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

Shit Swingers Say - Hilarious Video.. - A few highlights.. (Definitely things you'll ONLY hear swingers say)... "Should I pack my strap-on? I'm not sure if they're going to have one" "Do you guys mind if we move our dinner to next week? She JUST got her period." "I didn't recognize you guys with your clothes on!!" "Honey, you have GOT to feel her breasts.." "I don't wanna go out, I have a pimple on my ass". "Do you know any babysitters that will stay past 5am?" "So if our parents ask.. here's how we know each other....." "Do you remember what brand of condmons Jim and Karen like?" "What did you do to my husband, and can you teach me?" "That was awesome... What are your names again?" "Do NOT open this in front of your family." "Don't get my head in the shot.." "I FOUND A UNICORN!" "Sorry about the wet-spot" "If we do Indian for dinner, we might not wanna have anal later."

Hostile pricks in the lifestyle - - sorry...Male here... Whoever said something about your wife being grown in alaska...I would like to have one grown...Can you tell me which garden? COme on...Do not be greedy with the info...We could use one...I would have taken it as a compliment....but I like whales and think your wife is a fox... As to the to old to fat comment...A lot of people are "fantasy swingers" and as soon as they have some sort of real contact, they have to quickly find an excuse to turn you off...and what woman, no matter how big she is, would NOT be turned off by that comment? So to all your swinging people...I have a motto I live by...and I will share oit with you... FUCK THEM ALL BUT ONE...NEED SOMEONE TO LIGHT THE FIRE...AND I HOPE THAT ASSHOLE LIGHTS HIS SHIRT ON FIRE DOING IT!!!! Not that everyone is an asshole, but a lot are, and thusly the fuck them all attitude...BUt then again..I am an asshole to...I just hide it better than some others ;)

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Dipshit Quixote wrote: Btw, to all of you who obviously missed me, my weekend was pretty good, thanks. I went to something called Playa Del Fuego... (look it up, if you like). Great event; they even allow people with IQs too low to measure -------------------------------------------------- That's why "The legend in his own mind", Mr Quixote showed up. Damn DJQ, get a life man. I have been reading your posts for awhile now. It is painfully obvious that you stir shit up because you have no social life man. GET OFF THE COUCH!!!!! You don't piss me off anymore. You make me pity you. You are sorry. No matter what you say now, I'm just gonna look and say, "tsk tsk." Do yourself a favor. Walk to the nearest sink, fill it with water, stick your head in it and inhale really deep. It'll take the pain away. Oh and quit trying to sound like you are this stud scholar we're all suppose to be impressed by, with your "witty" replies. Your obvious delusions of grandeur are seriously underminding your plans to impress us all. The self-implied education & culture coupled with your personality deficiencies make you a charity case. I don't wanna yell anymore, I wanna motivate you to get off your couch and go meet people in person. It might help the "Single Guy" thing as well. Sincerely, A Better Man

Married & single? - single minded affrairs? - It is a double standard. We have meet several couples that would never consider a cheating guy, but would a cheating woman. I think some people ignore the double standard because of the Law of scarcity. Married/relationship bound men that are exploring without their spouse are no different from Single men has been our experience. If anyone Male or Female is having a sexual or emotional relationship without their primary partner's knowledge then they are cheating. It's not a matter of the quality or quantity or even if the partner had suspicions or not. It's a matter of trust which they are breaking by having a relationship that their partner would not approve of. And yes the Law of Scarcity is accepted by many swingers in regard to a female wanting to explore.....including us.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=UTHOTCPLEXTREME]We are a professional, naughty, highly sexual couple that wants to find another couple(s), and a single male or female that we know are safe that we can play with worry-free. Or a trusted group of couples and singles. I know most people are or say they are, but we’d like to establish a level of comfort where fluids won’t hinder us. We like to go ALL in and if we can establish some regulars that we can trust, think of the no holds barred fun we could all have. We could turn our home into a weekend pleasure palace. A place where you could arrive at, become friends with everyone, and have your way with anyone at the house knowing they’re all safe, and all want to make you feel good. Food, drinks, hot people, hot sex, and LOADS of fun and memories. We’re working on a hot tub now. So expect that too. Let us know what you think and if you want to be considered. Single males, we’ll invite you as well as select you. It will be on a case by case and requested basis.[/quote] Very well put. We agree.

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - mmmm.... those of you who know us know we are generous to those in the life style wether we play or have played or not... you'd have to catch sara or i at work...(like we work).. we do keep our personal life from the girls at work... for personal and professional reasons.....we are usually in from 9-3 for sara and im usually at work fron 8 am till 6 or 7pm...

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - We had a hard time buying tickets when the event first posted (and do meet the age requirement). Got some weird error and sent BMSHELL a screenshot to see if they'd seen it before. Not sure what was going on with it. We gave up on it after a while. Oh well, maybe next time .... :)

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - unicorn bait won't tell lure me in;)

Discussion brought about by the marajuana topic - - **YAWN** I'm with Highway on this one...there are plenty of ways to kill oneself. There are plenty of things the general "law-abiding" public does in their cars and homes that put themselves and others in danger. Have to wonder which demographic group will be next after having ridded our communities of the dregs of society by outlawing tobacco and alcohol (the insidious pot-heads have already been dealt with after all)? How about the fat people? They live an unhealthy lifestyle, and certainly provide a burden on society with obesity related issues. Attribute the rise in Type 2 Diabetes, heart disease, increase in cancer (yes cancer...in individuals who have never smoked and have otherwise lived a good "christian" life) to the convenient and unhealthy lifestyles full of decadence and complacency we lead (Hmm...I know there was a reference to the Roman empire somewhere earlier in this thread). Once the fat peeps are incarcerated...who shall shoulder the burden and blame for many of the ills in our society? There are always going to be special interest target groups in our society, whether they be pot-heads, crack-heads, fatties, adrenaline junkies, speeders, cell-phoning-while-driving idiots, swingers...well you get the point. We may forget to look at WHY things are made illegal, maybe that's on purpose...because when you think about it...the reasons for WHY they are do not make sense. It couldn't be merely for personal safety and health reasons...because if that were the case, then certainly excessive food, and cell phones would be made illegal. I'm with TR on the too much government intrusion scene; We are the so-called "most free" country on the planet...yet we have the most laws and government intrusion and incarcerated percentage of the population. Period. Merry Christmas...haha