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Physical Attributes vs. Personality - How important is being H/W proportional - The HWP cliche that we read in so many profiles is, in our opinion...totally lame.
It's overused...over-rated...and a total yawner.
Often...when we're contacted by couples whose profile states anything about HWP...we'll simply disregard them.
Honestly...can't anyone come up with something more original and authentic than the good ol' HWP bit?
Although Siren and myself consider many to be our friends (platonic)...with all types of swingers...it's always been what's inside that counts (play-wise).
Personality is and always will be the deal breaker/maker.
If your family or non swinging friends found out you swing - - In UT it has some different connotations because of the predominant religion here. Although a few of the people we have met are still practicing, it is definately frowned upon and the majority have parents or family that are still card carrying (*UT JOKE) members.
So, that the big risk of being found out, but they way we look at it, if my family came to me and said "so and so said that you were swingers...." my response would be "my sex life is private, just like yours, and if you want to tell me how your wife likes it and give me all the sordid details of your sex life, then I can answer your question, if not, we both can go on our merry way and not delve into each others sex lives, where it is none of our business anyhow!"
Vegas clubs / club attire - - We lived in Vegas for about three years, the perfect parties we're not all that great, we found a few friends and would either go to the swingers circle or whispers... the red rooster and green door were really over rated unless you there during a large weekend EDC or CES convention. Business casual for the men always appropriate. Hope this helps let me know if you have any questions
Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - Alot of the groups and sites do this very same thing. I think it's a good idea, kinda keep it in the "family"
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Visiting SLC in the summer and interested kik:izzeli
What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - Heres a bit of advice from a cpl that has had it the reverse we ARE NOT looking for only one sided play (which is what your profile tends to indicate). If you say what YOU BOTH want and MEAN what you say then possibly you will get a better response. Try shortening up your profile make it clear EXACTLY what you BOTH are looking for simply say in LARGE BOLD LETTTERS Looking for Ladies ONLY single or married your husband can be there but he is going to just WATCH. WE WANT FRIENDS FIRST DON't PUSH US we want to get to know you as FRIENDS not rulling out future sex (LADY to LADY) but, LADY to LADY SEX is the ONLY thing we are looking for.
Reading your profile there are somes misleading things its not very clear and very contradictary. Since we re-wrote and re-wrote our profile we no longer get as many wrong hits on our profile. We say it clear FULL SWAP ONLY ! O.K. That is our opinion hope it helps and hope you can clear your profile of the misleading statements and that you do trully find what you are BOTH looking for.
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Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - We have a Land Rover Discovery and a Ford Expedition.
Burnt out from searching - - [quote=ThroughTheVeil]Maybe the problem is that you're shooting too high?
I mean, don't get me wrong, everyone has their preferences, and at the end of the day, you shouldn't do anything (or anyone) you don't want to, but were in a similar boat of having to reach out a lot and getting rejected, a lot... even after making quick contact (or even longer contact) with a couple. Now if we didn't care who we met up with, we'r would have a different couple every night we had free time and some to spare, so having standards is important for time management also. What I'm saying is, if you're frustrated with how little (quality) contact, maybe you should give more people the benefit of the doubt.
I can think of couples that we initiated contact, 4 or 5 times before meeting, and then when we finally did, had a great time and became good friends, but that also meant reaching out to couples 6 or 7 times before realizing we were wasting our time swallowing our pride over them.[/quote]
The Lord and Lady of the Veil (Vale?) make a very good point. We've found that MANY swingers (Ourselves included.) are somewhat predispositioned (Yes, I know that's not really a word.) to constantly be on the lookout for what we might consider the perfect or ideal couple/connection and thus ignore people we might actually end up having a fairly great connection with because they didn't check one of our boxes for things thought we were looking for. Far too often it's too easy to overlook a good or even great couple when searching for the perfect one (That might not actually exist!). How much great or even just good sex might we be passing up in the pursuit of perfect sex? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Friendship vs. spontaneity? - Are you here to make friends or just to fuck? - The perception of this lifestyle is that there is a whole lot of sex going on between everyone. Maybe if you are young slim and trim and willing to go to bed with everyone at the drop of a hat that is true. But that pretty much describes the young anyway. If that is your perception of all swingers, and you are here in Utah, then you are bound to be disappointed.
I think that this question comes up a lot because it is not a simple question for many of us and it seems to be posted by those seeking friends first. The end goal may be sex. But if that is your only goal then why do you say you are seeking friends. Friendships are not made in 30 seconds or a drink over at the pub. If that is what makes friendships in your mind then you are really just here for sex.
For us it is finding friends. Some folks that we meet we will play with and some we will be just friends with. It really boils down to a 4 way vote when it comes to the bedroom and maybe even being friends in the first place. And that is what makes finding friends and bedroom partners difficult. There is always the added fear of rejection that gets in the way when you want to anything anyone.
I look at all the complaints of one-nighters and couples that never speak again after sex. I can only surmise that for those folks sex is the only yard stick of friendship. You do not have to be sexually compatible to be friends.
We have found that if what you are looking for is friends, then it is easy to be part of the lifestyle. If what you are looking for is based on having sex then it is easy to be disappointed and difficult to be part of the lifestyle.
Furthermore we look at those that just want to screw and think how lonely their existence must be.
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - whos up for friskyb compitition!? Closest to the hole on the 3 pars played scrambel~ Closest to the hole wins the opposing teams panties!
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