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swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Ya know what??? This all works two ways here. The most honorable Don and his faithful following continue to bash people for speaking their mind, but yet they preach that it's their right to post whatever they want. Isn't it funny that when Don thought he was gonna get banned that he got so humble and apologetic. Now that he thinks he's in admins good graces and can do what he wants, he's right back at it. Here's a thought Don.... Why don't YOU be the one to leave and start your own forum site so you can put everyone down and be in control of the whole thing? And for your information, don't be so confident that the majority has spoken. Only your followers have. I believe the real deal is that the MAJORITY ignores your idiotic antics. There, there's more fuel for your fire. You should be able to write for days now telling me what an illiterate low life I am. Have fun with it. It's my opinion that you should be gone and I'm stickin to it.
Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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Married & single? - single minded affrairs? - "The Lifestyle is for couples that love and respect each other and do this together."
So who makes these rules? Cheating is cheating...that is true. But how do you know what goes on in other aspects of the lives of the couples you meet? Can someone be "banned" from the lifestyle? I think everyone has to do what they feel comfortable with, but we shouldn't say that someone else isn't a swinger because they live their life differently. The same way many of us try to say that a cheater or a single can't be swinger if their partner is unaware, that can be equated to a Christian saying that swingers can't be Christians because even if their spouse knows it is still sex out of wedlock. Or slim people saying fat people shouldn't be called swingers because they do not find them sexy. Anyone can be a swinger, it is just up to us as individuals or couples to choose who we wish to play with, and not be judgemental or condescending to those with whom we choose not to.
Anyone else in or near Daybreak? - We know you are out there! - [quote=PLAYNW3]What ever came of the Daybreak swingers Facebook page? Is it active and being used?[/quote]
pretty slow. a couple people talk and post pics. most people just lurk. We need more people. Could be a great group
North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - This group continues to amaze me, year after year. Swingers constantly say they are not treated equally yet when someone posts something different from their views, they attack just like all bigots do.
The gentleman posted something that is intriguing. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to respond. Put your effort in typing on other posts. Why does his status matter? He paid to be a member of this site just like you did. If you don't like that, go found your own site and make the rules.
As for the OP, yep, very typical in Utah circles. Waste time at the local watering hole while putting on calories. No physical standards at the State level so it is no surprise.
Mav
fantasy football league free trying to get only swingers in leag - free autodraft fantasy football league - What if you don't know anything about football? Yes this is the male half....can I just fantasize that I do?
UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?"
We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing.
If you know of anything tell the world.
Swingers of Color - - I did wonder about that as recently as 7 yrs ago. Today the number of blacks and mixed couples is doing well and increasing everyday. Hispanics are also coming more to the fore in recent years... And the statistics of only a few years ago are now defunct. More and more 45 - 60 yr olds are joining the ranks of swingers. Many are looking for simply another couple for friendship with benefits on an exclusive basis but it's still swinging.. The empty nesters and retirees are on the move. Don't sell them short either... experience is really worth something.
Policing Ourselves - Can it be done? - Recently a suggestion was made that we as a group need to educate and police ourselves as a group in this our chosen lifestyle (thats swinging for all us simple folk) .
In order to do this effectively wouldnt there have to be some set of rules that everyone would be expected to adhere to? What would those rules be? how would they be created and ratified? would swingers from their respective states send represntatives to a central location to vote on these rules(oops now we get into politics) ? If you were teaching a new person (regarless of marital status or gender) the rules about swinging what would you teach them first?
I really would love to hear as much as possible from you guys.
richard
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - What is your sign?
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