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Small Admission Fee - Come join us but pay a small fee - God I love a bashing party and with nothing to do can't resist jumping in. Even though I love to be a smart ass sorry Dave I can't bash you, you did nothing wrong by defending yourself against this garbage post and have harmed me in no way so maybe another time. As for the rest of you that have spoken wisdom and given me the right to express mine I thank you. Now Mav I would like to know how your created such a following with your words of wisdom or maybe it's the smell of horse shit that attracts them. You have made a total of 6 comments. First Comment I'm all about helping cover hotel costs but "bring a bottle and a small admission fee of $50" seems rather excessive. Shouldn't the costs of the room be divvied up evenly? This seems like prostitution to me. OK I was the dumb one here thinking it was a legitimate question and answered it not knowing you were about to name and judge someone you had no right to. Now your second comment I love and my favorite reason to bash anyone that chooses to make newbies feel stupid then feed them garbage that makes no sense.. I wonder how many good people left the site thanks to you. I understand newbies can say some really dumb shit at times but unlike you I try and give a real answer GILDETHRILL wrote I would say $50 is fine for single guys! To help pay for the room cuz all your really going to be doing is fucking the woman that come and 90% of the time men out number the woman! But if there was a party that the woman out numbered the men, then the woman should pay to cover costs! Spoken like a total nube. Member since August 2014. Mav you said. No, it is not all right to discriminate. If you like that scene, go for it. Or you could have some class and hold out for the couple/single/group that truly appreciates you. WTF are you saying he is discriminating against women, men, money? Did you tell him anything that made sense at all? Now my answer to you GILDETHRILL would be why don't you do one for yourself and tell all the women for fifty bucks,,,, no wait for free they can have you. Well I think you can guess within one how many will show up. See women don't think like us men and have the urge to stick anything that will spread their legs. It also is why an event charges double for men and free for women, it evens things up a little, if it was the other way around a lot of single guys would be standing around with dick in hand wondering where the women were. Now number three and your legal advice all I have to say is next time I need legal advice I would ask the horse your sitting on before you. WOW! Never saw the lawsuit angle coming. I'm not surprised often but DAMN! Totally got me. Just remember everyone, the single most effective defense against libel is THE TRUTH! You can't be sued for saying what someone ACTUALLY did. So, feel free to post away what was said between people. And notice I am talking in generalities. Not giving legal advice, just common knowledge. Your fourth comment came after SheLove wrote Utah people are such tight asses with there money. Where can you get layed for under $50. Really. Grow some balls. You said SheLove, it isn't about the money. It is about sex for money. That is called prostitution. Do you not see that? The lifestyle is not about paying for sex. It is about consenting adults having fun for the sake of having fun. No money involved. Now I'm a little confused because I consider sex a type of entertainment. So I'm trying to think of something fun that wouldn't cost me a dime. Lets see solitaire na need to buy cards, wait after some thought my sock puppet will always join me for free, O shit I forgot to wash it last time and that costs money. So Mav I have to ask what exactly is sex to you anyway, your profile says nothing of what your willing to GIVE a lady to make it worth her time. And so you understand I'm not talking about money. Do you have a big dick, know how to use your tongue or fingers. Or do you just roll over on your back and tell her to please you because it's a womans job and not worth a cent anyway. Next you said Now he is advertising the orgy on craigslist!! Come on now it that the best news from craigs you have to tell us. What about this one did you post it? Its late, any ladies interested in some black cock tonight?8/7 - m4w 25 (University of Utah ) Then comes this piece of work OK, I've had a change of mind based on the opinions presented here. CrazyDave is a businessman like other posts and hosts. I cannot hold that against him. His tactics, well, that is questionable. But others are doing it as well. So, go forth and party CrazyDave. $50 isn't that bad off considering the costs of other parties. A Little Magic: if you DEMAND that I pay for everything to EXPECT sex, then yes, that is prostitution. If you ask me to pay for everything in 2014, then we would never go out. There isn't anything less sexy than a woman wanting the guy to pay for everything. Hike up that skirt and join 2014. You insult Dave, anyone that posts, hosts of parties others. Then called a very sweet lady that has foot the bill for a guy more times than you know a PROSTITUTE. What I don't get is how without a single nice good word about anyone you managed to put together a wonderful fallowing of perfect swingers, maybe you should think about a group of your own called bashing swingers enter at your own risk. If only I wasn't tired I could comment about their worthless bashing and speculation. [em]Emo_60[/em]

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Tonight’s party is a Mardi Gras party. Masks encouraged but not mandatory. Really fun parties! You can get the password on Facebook Unspoken lifestyle group. If you can’t find a password, don’t worry. You can still get in.

Christian Swingers - - DREW.. isnt polygamy a form of swinging? OOOHHH... wait... they are all wives of one man, guess thats not really swinging. No one is swapping wives, (as far as we know). On a more serious note. Religion, (regardless of what name you give it, ie: jews, mormons, catholics, whatever), is your belief in a supreme being. How you believe is personal. Although we may not follow the rules of our church, who's right is it to determine wheither we are christian or not? Any true believer in any religion knows that every great religious leader had emphisized over and over... its not ours to judge.. thats up to the supreme being you follow. We know alot of wonderful people who are wayward according to their church, but exhibit more respectable behavior than some of those people who claim to be so strict in their obediance to their church rules. A wise man once said.. there are three things never to discuss ... Politics, religion, and sex. So when do we start the forum on the Presidential race?

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - There's so much to write here, so I think I'll just bring up two points. In my experience, someone who has realized Atheism through careful and philosophical thought, tend to be much more moral than theists. Furthermore, the bible has to be the worst script imaginable to derive ones moral bearings--especially the old testament. If taken literally, the bible has many examples where rape, genocide, incest, and much more are excusable under certain conditions.

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - SAGITTARIUS

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I may have steped out of line here but I still wanted everyone to know, I just sent this to the asshole (DON_JUAN_QUIXOTE) with all the remarks about the Military. Sir and I use that term loosely, you obvesely have no clue what the F' your speaking about and I can't help but think you are quite possible a F'in Democrat. It's only fair to assume (and we all know what that means) that you don't believe in anything George Bush or any other Rep. has to say. We have to agree with the rest that you TRUELY do not UNDERSTAND what you really have because of people like myself who go to work everyday in the MILITARY. We may not DIRECTLY save your life but when some asshole like on the day of 9-11 comes knocking on your door I am sure you will again be one of the first to cuss us again because we're NOT THERE to save your ASS. Personally if I was there I'may just have to sit back and say "have you ever heard of the "Just Due Process" you know what I'm talking about. Like when a child rapist goes to jail, as soon as the inmates find out what's he there for, he only has one way to go, be a BITCH for everyone else or die. Well I'd have to say you fit right into that mold. Sincerly MSGT USAF

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - "Well regardless of what some folks say, age is a determining factor, especially when you reach the, "remind me of my dad" attitude, or even "you could be my grandfather"" So, what advice would hand those that are told they remind other couples of their kids? Youth seems to be as much of a stumbling block from what I have observed as agedness.

finding a couple with a bi female - - Heck, if single girls are unicorns, couples with bi females are, if not blades of grass, at least rose bushes, or something else that isn't exactly everywhere but that there are sure a whole lot of. Why? Who knows? I'd guess, first that there are just more bi females that there are males in the world. Then a bi female is obviously going to have to go outside the marriage to play with girls, so what better place than the swingers world? Whatever the reason, there are a lot of them. For that matter, we're one of them, although I have no idea whether Dana would fit whatever it is you're looking for. As Delisciouslywet already said, check the profiles. Pretty much every couple on here that has any pics has a pic of the girl. Do a search. Use the advanced search to specify bi or maybe even bi comfortable. If you have an age limit, specify that. But don't set it too low, you'd be surprised how many really hot women there out there who are older than many people think is the point at which good looks stop. Guys too, but for some reason to a lesser extent. Maybe we don't take as good care of ourselves as the girls do or something. In any case, you'll get to see what people look like before you contact them. Do not specify that the girl has to have a yes for "plays alone". Some couples put maybe, or even no, for that because she won't play alone with guys, and they don't want to deal with all the emails from single guys, but she will play alone with girls. Go through the results, send an email to those that seem attractive to you. And ask if the female would be interested in playing alone with you. I'd be surprised if it took you very long to find the right person. And, hey, those Risque Soiree guys are having a Halloween thing, "7th Annual Exotic Erotic Halloween Ball" in SLC next Saturday. I'd imagine there'll be a lot of folks there, it might be worthwhile to go to it and see if you meet anyone who can solve the problem.

Swinging and Children Don't Mix With Me, What about You? - Unforgettable experience - we would have never took our kids to a cpls house that we met at a swing club first and for most. if we didnt me cpls because of our kids then the world didnt stop.sounds like poor communiations....the cpl mite not have known the problem sence ole hubby went with her with out a fight. something tell us this was doomed from the start.but you got one thing rite unless you know the folks very very well a family get-to-gether with swingers is a bad idea but thats just our thoughts on this.... roger and vickie ps i hope all the english majors forgive my country boy spell

Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - I wanna watch a reality show where those two polyg families, the Browns and the Williams, swing and swap wives and stuff.