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Who thinks swinging should be just like ordering up an Uber? - - Just, you know, click on your phone and find a willing couple or single and 'wham, bam, thank-you, ma'am' after it's over you use your phone to immediately give them a rating. There could even be a short questionnaire about things like whether they argued about using a condom, whether their nipples were disgustingly pierced and even if their breath smelled like ass. Just think of the time this would save sorting thru 'binders of swingers' and trying to pick someone out based on a glorified Tinder profile. [em]Emo_28[/em]

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Same Sex Marriage - If you support - I support gay marriage. I support my sister's right to love whom she chooses, to give her heart and soul to the person she chooses. My sister just happens to love another woman. Why is her love any less than yours or mine? How does her being able to marry the person she loves hurt your marriage or take away from your relationship? Gays would take the same vows would they not? They'd make the same commitments? They'd love, cry, fight, makeup just the same? I'm tired of the sanctimonious, claims of how gay marriage will weaken straight marriage. Is your marriage that damn insecure that someone else being allowed to marry will cause issues for you? I'm tired of the what next argument. Folks will be marrying goats. BS! How about this one, swingers shouldn't be allowed to marry because of how they trash their vows to remain faithful? Not too cool? Stay out of the love lives of others and you'll get the same in return. You want your version of love and commitment respected, how about giving some of that respect in return?

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I LOVE dp :) love love love. I would like to try dvp too. but we don't do single guys and finding girls that want to do it/allow their hubby's to do it is difficult. :(

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=BMSHELL]I think my advice above boils down to: 1) Be honest.. Don't try to mislead people about who or what you are. 2) Make an effort to give others a chance to get to know you and trust you. 3) Don't be gross. And this stuff is nothing more than my opinion.. While I would love a world where everyone is required to agree with me, that probably won't happen for at least 5 more years, if things continue to go well. ;)[/quote]What'd people beat up on you for your suggestions or something? [em]Emo_54[/em] I liked 'em and thought them useful. Our profile used to include mostly goofiness -- but then that was OK 'cause that's pretty much been our approach to this whole swingin' thing. It's not all that important in the scheme of things and seems to always work out best for us if we don't take it or ourselves too seriously. We're pretty comfy with where we're at now with friends and all -- so I've toned it down to reflect that but if I were back into a voracious hunt again I'd certainly take your remarks into consideration. Good stuff! :)

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - SUMINDYFUN: To attempt to better answer your question, this is what we've experienced/learned in our poly-type relationships... This is so much more of a complex subject than just a quick "blurb", we like to compare it to guessing a 4 combination lock, you know at least 1 or 2 of the correct numbers... but do you really??? You find out an amazing amount about YOURSELF through this process! We have seen just about everything emerge, from complete unbelievable bliss to complete unbelievable hurt. However, what we've learned is TOTAL honesty, trust, respect, patience and absolute untethered communication are key! These things can either make or break it and breaking it earlier rather than later is a good thing, because if it breaks later then it usually means one or more people missed one or more of the fore-mentioned items and will cause much greater hurt because of all the time/work that was put in by the others. BTW, apparently the bliss is much more powerful than the hurt because we keep trying and trying for some reason? Yep, its like a drug and we're addicted! This is why we dont fault any one for not wanting to "step through that door" so to speak. We suggest to any one that they open that door very, very slowly and even walk away for a bit before entering fully. ABCMAN: You hit the nail directly on the head... from our experiences, social conditioning is extremely difficult for most people to overcome.

WTH over? - Private picture debacle. - I guess I'll play the devil's advocate for a second and share an opposing point of view. And this isn't meant to be offensive, just presenting another way to look at the initial question/complaint. First off, and I've mentioned this time after time in different posts, there is no one correct way to swing, to post a profile or to live a swinger life. If your opinion (and I don't mean you, as in the poster of the thread, just a generic term) is that people should show their faces and it irritates you if they don't, that's a fine opinion to have, but it's just that, an opinion. If you are in a position in your life that you don't mind if friends, family and co workers know you swing or see graphic pics of you, possibly from another source other than you sending them, or from a random search through a swinger website, that's great. It might be empowering and refreshing to some degree. However, some people don't feel comfortable with that or may actually suffer harm to their reputations, face loss of income or have other unwelcome things happen to them. It has happened to people and the threat, even if just perceived, feels very real to some. We live in a prejudicial society that places its values and norms on others and sometimes punishes those who don't comply with that version of normalcy and moral behavior. It seems an understandable worry to me and to others. " If you’re truly worried about “your job” or others seeing you than maybe you’re in the wrong place?" That doesn't make much sense to me. Though taking a break now, we have been successful "swingers" for many years and we were always careful and had a worry about certain people finding out. We know many, many others who feel the same, so to say we might be in the wrong place doesn't hold much water as anything other than your preference for who you meet or how you prefer a profile to look. As with all aspects of life, but let's direct this to swinging, there is no black and white, right or wrong. Personally we have always tried to bend our preferences, to give people the benefit of the doubt unless there was a glaring red flag or we were not in the least attracted because of what we read, profile pics (attraction) or something else that wasn't attractive or inviting to us. But no worries. There are a lot of different people with different needs and expectations. It is always fun for us to expand our prejudices, learn new things, try new things and step away from a list set in stone that we need to follow. That being said, we have our own preferences and opinions on what we are looking for, but that's all they are. We understand some people want to meet and fuck after a quick hello and exchanging a kiss. Some want more of a poly relationship. Some will never play in the same room while others demand it. There us a beautiful spectrum to life, to swinging to...everything. Just my opinion, of course. You may limit meeting some amazing people by creating strict rules about what you expect, especially related to profiles. Many new couples are super sensitive about even being on the site. But if that is what works well for a couple, great. That's how they do it. It would be wonderful to be in a place where we could all be honest and open with everyone we knew. But we don't and we can't, or perhaps it is just we choose not to because of the severe consequences we may face. I respect people's choices to progress at their own speed, to exchange face pics when they feel comfortable with it and to feel safe in the situation they are working in. For us, and the way we know many of our friends do it, the public pics are a little bit of an appetizer. The private pics have traditionally been more sexy and naughty. Then we have 20 or so face pics in the folder that we specifically have to give access to. Our reasoning is that some people want to add you as a friend so they can keep track of you, show interest, or yes, sometimes just see pics. For those pic hunters especially, we don't share face pics unless we are interested. It provides a level of comfort and security for us, even if it really isn't that safe and only gives us warm and fuzzies. It also is beneficial when nosy people are snooping on the site to see who they know, and even though it doesn't worry you, it worries some. Last up, we too have frustrations about certain profiles or they way people progress with their pics and such. But we certainly think they have the right to be swingers in whatever capacity they choose. If we don't like something, get too frustrated, we move on. But we do it knowing the other person or couple is swinging as they choose and we support that. I think the forums can be fun places to share ideas. It's a place to learn about others and see an opinion that you might not agree with or haven't thought about. Or, it's a place to ramble on about not much, so if you have read this far, good for you. :) xoxo Mr SRO

MAIL - people that never answer you back - We have the same experience in The Netherlands. Think its a worldwide item. Shouldn't be so, as we are all swingers (hope so), a respectfull bunch of people!

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]i like to eat babies. they taste like chickens. and chickens taste like babies.[/quote] Aw...Kitty, you been listening to Eddie Izzard again?

Anyone else in or near Daybreak? - We know you are out there! - [quote=PLAYNW3][quote=MEOWMIX10000][quote=PLAYNW3]What ever came of the Daybreak swingers Facebook page? Is it active and being used?[/quote] pretty slow. a couple people talk and post pics. most people just lurk. We need more people. Could be a great group[/quote] We worry about our kids etc finding it, that's why we haven't joined the Facebook group. We'd like to hear what's going on but really don't trust Facebook for this type of communication.[/quote] Yeah, actually I don't blame you. We worry about that too.