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Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned.
One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote]
Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious?
Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?
Disappointments! - - Hello everyone, :) we just wanted to say HI and ask a simple question.
OK ............ we have been in the life style for about three years now, and too this date we continue to have a problem with meeting people. We (well we think anyway) discribed exactly what we wanted but we still have people who want one-night stands and quickies. Were not into that at all. We enjoy getting to know people, we don't have a problem with playing on the first date if we feel it will lead to other dates. But so far NO LUCK, We feel we've been used and abused. And now we've really clamped down, but now our problem seem to be meeting people who are just PLAIN FLAKES. Were in Texas as our profile says, and trust me folks the swingers in Texas arn't what they claim to be. They either want a quick screw or are people who drag you into meeting them and then you discover that they are SPACE CASES. One or the other has a sever problem with there mate being with someone else. ANYWAY.............
I guess what were really asking is what are we doing wrong. And are we LOSER magnets ??
Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - ok, someone that thinks the Mormon garments are sexy is like saying the movie Human Centipede was a huge turn on.......just wrong.
Children - - am a momma bear when it comes to my kids. They know am a nudist but they DO NOT know my lifestyle. The reason why they don't know about it is because I think in their teen age years they have a lot to worry about and also they are discovering the world outside the home. I give them a lot of advise and talk a lot to them to the point that they know what is swinging but again they do not know that we are swingers. My 14yr old daughter knows that am bi because a lot of her friends are bi and she was very confused as to the whole thing.
Not even our closes swing friends know my kids. We each talk about our kids and brag about them. I have met theirs and this summer we are planning to have the families join but this is ONLY because we have been friends for a while and we talk and know a lot about each other even private problems that only the closes family members would know. I know how they are with their kids and they know about how we are with ours, so I am comfortable with them meeting them.
I chatted with a cpl for a long time and we even played a few times. We got comfortable with each other and in one conversation the topic about the kids came up... We talked and bragged about the kids. After a few weeks I was asked if I wanted to see their kids on cam. I said ok just because we had played and talked a lot. I saw their kids and everything seemed normal. It turned out after a while the mother told me her daughter was bi and she loves to watch her daughter have "fun" with her friends. She sits back, plays with herself and tells her daughter what to do, another thing that was disturbing to me is that this person is a high school math teacher.
MY KIDS ARE OFF LIMITS... even when am chatting, emailling or just checking the site my laptop is posittioned in a way that no one can see the screen except who ever is in front of it. I also know that newborns till about 4 or 5 depending on the child development is ok to do as you please, but I remember things when I was 5 years old, things that my mom says but you where so small. To my opinion anything older than that should not be exposed to anything.
There are so many sick minds out there. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.
they fix mobile and killed photo albums - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]It is just part of the new mobile rollout. You can only see each individual profile picture at a specific GPS coordinate. The idea is that swingers will bump into each other while they are all out looking for the locations that let them catch each others naked profile pictures. [/quote]
Might not be naked. Might just be suffering from mange. [em]Emo_8[/em]
flintstones swingers ? yes or no - - I have had people say I look like Fred. Any Bettys out there?
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=NEWCOUPLE4FUN]So, Heidi has been stalking this thread... Sweet, please friend us :)
We can share stories about how your other "news" friends chose to partake, but not publicize. Your story portrayed a woman forced into the lifestyle. Anyone forced should get out immediately. That is just wrong. The woman "shown" was not a willing participant and was being abused. It's sad that this was not the focus. Abuse in any form is wrong. She could have just as easily been sold on craigslist to spice it up. This was a very poor excuse for journalism. Good luck with your next "story."
I'm sure this site thanks you for the free publicity though. Bring in the new recruits, as long as they are adults and making their own decisions...[/quote]
There's little journalism here in Utah; it's about driving views whose numbers can be used for ad revenue. Titillation drives views. The curiosity gap ("You won't believe what happens next!") drives views. Informing is never considered necessary, only attracting views and/or clicks.
There are hungry children in every county of this state but a salacious and sexxxay story is what they choose to put on the news? Useless entertainment masquerading as a higher purpose.
How close is too close - - FITZNBELINDA
Actually, swinging will very quickly bring out and magnify flaws in a relationship, even in good relationships. The difference is that a good relationship/marriage will use this info to increase the trust and communications and make that relationship stronger.
You asked about swingers as compared to the general public... The divorce rate in the general public is between 66 and 77% depending on which figures you are looking at.. THis is both for 1st and 2nd marriages. Approx 70% of all married people, both male and females, in the general public, now will admit to extramarital affairs. Since extramarital sex is the essence of swinging that is not an issue but marriages in the swinging community are stable approximately 85% of the time or only 15% of swingers marriages fail... as compared with 75% failure in the general public... In other words non swingers are 340% more likely to get divorced than swigners... or 3.4 times as likely.
Respect is one thing but sometimes Stuff just happens. We don't ask for it we are not open for it but still it still happens.... My love for others has no effect on my wife and my relationship.. She understand who I will be going home with and that I don't wish to cause others grief.. If people are honest with themselves as well as others and you respect people enough to understand what's going on and care about their feelings you just walk away before any damage is done...
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - Mike16 a bit off topic but... loved the very nice landing strip mrcheez favorite....
Missy, nice twist on the game
what do guys think of when they masterbate? - - I have to admit that the thought of my wife being fucked by another man is sometimes he topic of maserbatory fantasy. More often it's fantasy of both of us with either another couple or another single female. Sometime the fantasies are of people we haven't met, fictional characters, or swingers we've been with. I think the most erotic are fantasies of vanila singles or couples we'd like to hook up with. When I was younger I sometimes masterbated to fantasies of fucking the Bishop's wife, who was a complete and total hottie.
Mr. Sexperimentors
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