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POT... Should it be illegal? - - Or Hippocrates...can never remember which.
And I have news for you. It AIN'T just the "holy mormon empire". There are more than enough hypocrites in this world to go around (most of us swingers included). [em]Emo_84[/em]
Photographer/Videographer/Cinematographer - Want a pro shoot and a really low cost? - Hey swingers, I (Don) am a pro photographer. I also do video work as well. Would love to shoot some stills or vid for ya. I have a background in nudes, implied nudes, boudoir etc. I will provide some examples in my port for your review.
I do not expect any "play time". It's strictly professional. You get all the photos! :) I will also post process (color/exposure correct). If you are interested, give me a call.
Don
801-807-8057
P.S. I am shooting with the new Nikon D800, so you will be getting amazingly sharp, 36 Megapixel shots!
Tools of the trade:
Nikon D800
Canon 7D
Have you noticed? - Admin. doesn't give a SHIT!!! - In our humble opinion, Kasidie is a much better website. But,Swingular has traditionally been the site for Utah. However, we have noticed a significant increase of Utah swingers now joining Kasidie, which will probably continue.
Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - Our group, (Tampa Bay Lifestylers), has a handful of single males. They are a select few. These guys are known around the area as decent respectable guys. They know how to work a room without "COCK BLOCKING" or pissing in anyone's corn flakes because they pay attention to the room. Most are smart enough to sort of lay back and watch. They know that all the couples or single women that ARE looking for a SM to join in will ask (if they don't already know), if there are SM's there. Our group does not play on the premise that (I AM GETTING LAID NO MATTER WHAT), and the guys know this. So none of these guys feel the need to push anyone. They also realize there will be more parties and that everyone is comfortable with them at a party they will be invited back again and again..
There are WAY more BI women in the lifestyle and this usually means that married guys are more likely to stand there. This makes for even less room for single men as well. COUPLES, (Which is where SWINGING came from), are more frequently looking for additional WOMEN to join in, thus brings in the single woman. Yes, there are the peeps looking for a single man to join or just take the wife away for play alone, but it is far less frequent. Therefore most groups and clubs are allowing all single women and only a few single men..
I have also heard couples talking about removing SM all together from parties and clubs. My thoughts are simple but controversial. I think SWINGING is a COUPLES thing. All singles are just dating or becoming "SWINGERS" to just plain get laid.. To me, and don't get pissy, if I were a single man and could get away with joining the SWINGER WORLD, I would do it in a minute because most in the lifestyle are in it SOLELY for sex.. Like a drunk working in a bar.
Just a note for you single guys. Sit back and watch. Don't be pushy or try to impress women with your job or your possessions. They DON'T give a SHIT about what you do or where you live or your HARLEY. If they are interested in you it is all about your body and your COCK!!! So try laying back and letting them come to you. I know this works VERY VERY WELL for my single male buddy..
How close is too close - - I think that the question poses a number of possibilities... If only one person is starting to feel something beyond sexual attraction then that person should step back and examine why they are feeling this way. If it is only one way then the person who is having the feelings needs to take stock of the reality of the situation and realize the potential problems involved. If the situation is mutual and noone else realizes it then the two involved need to discuss it... and they both have to weigh the situation. Why is this happening and are the possible ramifications worth the risks involved... If it is possible talk about it with everyone concerned and make a determination as to what needs to be done. I've actually heard about a situation where a couple split over a swinging situation and the lady from the one couple went with the guy from the other couple and the gal from the other couple went with the husband of the woman that went with her husband.. A real twist on the concept of swapping....
Being poly may put a totally different slant on how I look at this problem... since I am involved with a married woman. My wife and her husband are not poly... The other couple are not swingers and we are very good friend as couples... and everyone knows about she and I. It's very difficult to explain to anyone how this works but it does and it can..... So I have a unique perspective on love and swinging... or just married people and love between non married people in married situations.
I would generally say, however, that swingers should not get into love situations unless you and your mate and the other couple can handle this situation.. If a love relationship starts to happen run don't walk to the nearest exit and don't turn around.
Just possibilities .. There are quite a few poly people involved iin swinging...including some of the older people entering into swinging... They are looking to expand their sexual and love relationships as well. THere are also younger people in the lifestyle who are poly.. The subject has come up a surprising number of times of various swinger sites...
So if you're not poly and start to feel love for someone other than you mate... Assess you first as to why... but regardless, if you love your mate....get away fromo that particular situation...
Ray
YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - Hello everyone, coming from Georgia! Can't wait to start meeting everyone in person. Oh yeah, round of drinks and lap dances! We are driving in on Saturday and still trying to decide where to stay. Any suggestions?
How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=LOUISE_DON]Upside down pineapple ?? lol i dont get that at all.....[/quote]
Early on, when looking into swinging, I visited another forum. A couple posted a picture of themselves with the caption, "We did it!" Their shirts were off and they were facing away from the camera. A few people posted that they didn't get it. The OP explained that they got upside down pineapples tattooed on their backs so other swingers would know they were in the lifestyle. No one knew what they were talking about. It was sad cause at first they joked that it was a well known sign, but person after person chimed in that they had never heard of it. Some people who had been in the lifestyle over ten years said they'd never heard of it.
After a while they stopped trying to convince people and then stopped responding.
It was pretty sad.
Pink flamingo - How many swingers have a pink flamingo in their front yard? - We have pineapples on the trailer and black rings lol
couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - SLCWanderlust! You guys be careful out there. I imagine that Utah must be awash in diseased perverts by now.
Why people always complicate things is beyond me? Aren't we already stressed enough with our everyday problems without finding it necessay to fillet each other on open forums.
Ya'll drop me a line sometime and we can compare notes between who is the biggest group of perverts and disease bearing swingers.
Thanks for the conversation...Ron
Divorce rates - How do we compare - Accurate stats on this would be tough to get because of who would answer honestly that they were swinging before getting divorced - but you could probably get close and our bet would be that its pretty close to 50/50??
Having said that, I guess we're going to skew the stats negatively towards the swingers since we plan on getting divorced as soon as all the kids are grown. We dont believe that marriage is needed to prove ones love and commitment for each other. We we're successful at this for the first 7 years, and 2 kids; (bastards - lol) of our relationship. But back in the day before GLBT(P) started fighting for equal rights, insurance companies wouldn't cover "straight" partners either, so we got married to get coverage, among some of the other rights that might pertain to our children.
We have no problem with others getting married to extend their love for one another and we celebrate it. However, we absolutely detest governments using marriage as a tool to control the masses and their choice of romantic endeavors with each other - the rights that straight couples also loose from this should have many more people up in arms about it!
This is one of the problems that has aided in the distortion of what love, marriage and true friendship really is which in turn causes more divorce... and people that CANT HANDLE SWINGING.
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