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AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

real members? - - You've struck on an interesting topic. I call them cyber swingers. They are swinger wanna be's . They find the thought of swinging erotic and interesting but they don't have the balls to actually get involved in the lifestyle. They like to hide behind the safety of their computer screen. They'll exchange email with you as long as you're willing or dumb enough to keep writing them. They'll never actually meet you or anyone else. That would be way too personal and would force them to crawl out from behind the security of their computer. Or you ocasionally run into the single guy that has created this fictional "couple". It's all a big game for him. He's just there to collect photos or maybe trick someone into playing with him because his wifes is "unavailable " at the moment. Whatever their game they're all the same because they both violate the principles of honesty and trust that the lifestyle revolves on. We get email all the time from couples that "have read your profile--think you guys are great and want to get to know you better". That generally sends off alarm bells for us. We'll respond and exchange an email or two. If the other couple doesn't have pics posted or pics of just one of them we ask for additional photos in the first email. Since we have good pics of both of us in our profile we never send any other pics other than those posted. If we get the "don't have any pics of him or he's camera shy or don't have a camera yet" or any one of the other lame excuses we've gotten over the past year or so--that's it--you're done as far as we're concerned. We'll give out our cell phone number right away and tell them to call us or give us theirs and we'll call them. We want to speak to both of them. If we can't because one's not there we'll call back at a more convenient time when we can talk to both of them. If everything seems ok during the conversation we'll make a date to meet at a convenient restaurant or club and take things from there. This seems to work well for us. It tends to weed out the "cyber swinger" right away. John & Colleen

Yet Another Cheater - - [quote=WYOFUNLUV]Isn't the reason everyone is here is to have wild different sexual experiences? If a male or female is married and chooses not let that be known then isn't that their business? I agree that if your not comfortable with it then its your right to ask and say no if you find it out. Either way if someone gets caught its not your problem its theirs. I know people on here that play and their spouses do not know many travel and/or dont have great sex at home whether it is due to medication or age or anything else. In the long run I dont think this is as much of a dating site as it is a site of like minded people looking to satisfy adult needs and fantasies. So Have fun and do what your standards and morals let you do. And don't chastise people who dont think like you. Ok I said my two cents. Now lets have some fun.[/quote] On a certain level, you're correct. It's nobody else's business. However, one could also use that argument to justify/excuse literally any behavior. What if a guy is abusive to his wife? Is it still nobody else's business since that's between him and her and he's just here to fuck other people? I know that I would want to know about something like that if I was going to be okay on ANY level with him being intimate with my wife. The same goes for a person who is, say, abusive to his kids or kicks his dog and leaves it chained up outside no matter the weather. I could go on and on about bad behavior that we'd want to know about, if possible, before we decided to invite that person into our relationship because, in a very real sense, that's what a couple is doing when they swing with someone else. That's also why many people don't feel like singles have as much 'skin in the game' (i.e. they aren't RISKING as much) and why many feel like so many single guys just don't 'get it'. Personally, Ms. Evil and I can't simply separate a person's sex organs from who and what they are as a person. So yeah, we're not really keen on playing with cheaters as that says something important, at least to us, about their character...or lack thereof. But don't worry. There are still people here who it doesn't bother in the least if the person they're fucking is doing so behind the back of someone they made promises and a commitment to. That's MY two cents. Oh, and when you say "...it's not their problem." well, it actually COULD be their problem. We knew a guy about 10 years ago who ended up in the hospital after a woman's husband (who the guy had been told was aware of and okay with her meeting swingers) caught him in bed with his wife.

Met someone you know at a lifestyle event - - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. There's really no easy way to explain, deflect, lie, or otherwise extricate yourself from that situation. Counting, just now in my head, it's happened to us no less than half a dozen times. Everyone from family members (Ms. Evil's cousin), friends of friends (BFF's of our former next door neighbors), business acquaintances/clients, you name it. It's always such an unexpected shock that we invariably handle it poorly. LOL ps- Happened again last night at a wedding, of all things! Not really a lifestyle event/party but plenty of swingers there and the implications were probably fairly obvious to anyone really paying attention.

Swinger Study Survey - - Certain folks are NOT understanding what I'm saying about the survey - and they're NOT reading the initial qualifying instructions. It clearly states: "For the purpose of this study, swingers are individuals that are married or in a committed, steady relationship where either one, or both partners, engages in consensual sexual activities with other individuals with the approval of the other spouse or partner". Yes, LRMKRVO, I did read it - and I fully DO understand it. Since you seem to think your reading comprehension skills are vastly superior to mine, please point out to me where the above ALLOWS participation by someone who is not MARRIED, and not IN A COMMITTED, STEADY RELATIONSHIP, who engages in consensual sexual activities with other individuals WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE OTHER SPOUSE OR PARTNER. Sure, I could very easily have taken the survey and pretended I was the male side of just such a relationship, as is described in the criteria for taking the survey. But I'm NOT. And THAT is quite simply what I'm trying to point out to everyone. IF you read the instructions, it's CLEAR that only those in a committed relationship are welcome to participate - thus eliminating non-committed SINGLES of either sex from participation. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR EVERYONE TO COMPREHEND THAT? And as for question # whatever, I have NO clue what any of the questions are because I did NOT take the survey. I wasn't invited to take it - I am expressly eliminated from eligibility to take it. If you walk up to a door, and a sign on the door says DO NOT OPEN THIS DOOR, how would you know what's inside? The instructions clearly state that I - as a single - am not welcome to open the door, so how am I to know what the questions inside are? FORGET THE SURVEY AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE CRITERIA FOR PARTICIPATION. That's all I ask.

ISO: sexy married couple - exclusive FWB - Let's have some fun... - Question: If a swinger couple hooks up with another swinger couple, and they develop an exclusive play relationship that last for years, can they really still be called swingers? In my mind, “swingers” assumes a certain amount of promiscuity. If we are only fucking one other couple, I’d say we are FWB, but no longer swinging.

Swingers Kickball Society - - Me and my wife are definitely interested

Yet Another Cheater - - Dayyuuuummmm This ones is getting thick. Nothing like a good hot topic on a cool Wednesday. Cheating = lying = bad. Playing alone Is not cheating. Anyone who wants to dabble in this world is going to run across some unsavory shit. You don’t go to a bikers bar and bitch about there being so many bikers. I’m not saying swinging is the same as cheating but let’s face it we’re dealing with extrarelational sex, lines get blurred. A very pious couple might look at sanctioned swinging and say we’re all fucking nuts. Normal swingers look at a cheater and question hus/her morals. I feel like everyone wants to point their finger down stream and call them assholes. We’ve run into cheaters too, we roll our eyes and move on. Vent if you need to vent but don’t let the bastards (or bitches) get you down. Have fun!

New Vibrator - - We wanted to share this link with all our fellow swingers out there, even those of you who just want to play online can even get in on the fun. This new toy will allow you to play with someone in the next room to around the world. The wife here just loves the idea of someone else being able to play with here even if they can't be with her in person. We would love to see this site pick up on it and maybe offer it to their members ....... well with that all said hope to see what happens with it. Here is the link http://www.sinulate.com/ Have fun and be Safe W & A

swinger club in Clarksville TN. - - There is a guy who is in the process of building a swingers club in CLarksville TN. we would like to know who in our town would join this club and if they think it's a good idea?