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Happy Fathers Day - Hope it has ~ - Massage I think I understand where you're going. The first response I read before you edited. I think your doing what they people who classify single males in one group are doing. And broad group everyone. What you covered goes over so many different types of swingers. I'll explain me in part now and yes she reads what I type and gives me input, she just isn't into posting on sites like this. Many of us are not on here for either of us specially where on here for each other this is a swinger site I don't come here for single males. I come here to find couple's for both of us. The fact my wife didn't realize till I told her last month is when it comes to single males I'm so picky. I'm bi sexual as many know I can post on a site like grinder and I will get sexy guys in there 20s in perfect shape messaging me for hook ups. Full disclosure I don't like doing those because of fear of STDs, but the reason I say that is the market for guys is so over supplied, so if me or my wife want a single guy to play with we typically look for that else where. I don't do hook ups with guys neither does she we want relationship with guys or girls then if it comes sex. That's kind of all over the place sorry I write it on my phone. But if single guys wouldn't go against profile requests on this site I think they would have better reputation. Let's face it this is a swinger site so in my opinion single guys are more of guests that need to watch what they say do. Or get replaced. That sounds harsh but it's true. With all that said me and Brenda did find an amazing single guy on this site. But we contacted him.

Damn Utah couples! :) - - (This should start a little debate and raise the hair on a few people's necks) There are many hotties in Utah. Sexy, fun, people who are great to hang with (and play with). Well.... If you think you want to go to Utah to meet these sexy people, we suggest a visit NOT a permanent relocation. We lived in Florida for 10 years and then moved our family to Utah for 5 years. Its hard to describe how difficult it is to live a "normal" life in Utah because the Mormons control so much of the total "consciousness" in the state. Especially if your wife and kids are Catholic. Utah is beautiful and the people are nice. However you almost have to go "underground" in order to have real fun and enjoy things that elsewhere are commonplace. The government, liquor laws, and the social interactions are heavily controlled by the Moron church. The mainstream populace, as well as the non-mormon citizens, are heavily influenced by the Church and because its everywhere... it seems normal. Its hard to see what I'm talking about until you get out of there and look back. Utah is a great place to visit, a great place to ski and play, but its definitely not "The Place" for free-thinking swingers types. Disclaimer: I grew up LDS in Utah. Graduated from high school and a major University in Utah before moving out of state. Most of my family is still there. Growing up in Zion everything seems normal until you live elsewhere and move back.... then you realize how the Mormon church controls almost all aspects of life there. We return to go skiing and visiting family multiple times each year. Its a great place to be from. Now if you live in Utah, there is no need to get all pissed off and write a diatribe about how much you love your state. I love Utah too. I just hate the heavy-handedness and the hypocrisy of the faithful. There is also no need to try to explain how you get along just fine in the Beehive state... I'm sure you do. Unless you grew up as a Utah Mormon, moved away for an extended time (no, a mission, or a cruise to Mexico, doesn't count), and then moved back to experience the contrast, you don't have a real understanding what I'm talking about. :p BLUEDECEMBER... Rather than travel to Utah for fun.... why not travel to "full-swap land" for an even better adventure??

Meet swingers in Tooele - Where do the swingers hang out in Tooele? - There is swingers in tooele county???? Where? Lol mmmm

Vegas Jan 2023 - What's the hot setup for Vegas during the AVN awards? - Hi all! What is the best approach to the swingers scene during the AVN awards in Vegas in early January? Thanks for your help!

What's in Southern Utah? - - no that just sucks for you my wife has the problem of turning strait people into swingers LOL

First time flop rule - it happens - [quote=BLUEEYESINUTAH]Sometimes women have 'issues' too. At least I do. It doesn't matter how much mentally I'm into it, I can't get wet to save my life. I feel so stupid when that happens. I realize that age (gasp!), hormones, nervousness, alcohol, etc have a lot to do with it but it still sucks purple twinkies. I feel a bit defective. Granted, that's why lube was invented so I guess at least I have a lifeline. But still, you don't want your partner to think you aren't into it.....:([/quote] Don't feel bad, LJ always carries lube due to her allergy medication. Serious hassle even for sex at home dammit! [quote=SPYDER_MYKE]i have thought about this. we are newbies and havent even met up with a couple yet (there arent many swingers in our area apparently) we get the 'what if' thoughts. 'what if we dont click?' or 'what if we do click, everyone gets along great and we chicken out?' i mean were not shy, maybe were just nervous cuz were 'virgins'?[/quote] First, move to FL, we have plenty of swingers here. Second, as long as people know you are knew then they should understand that you may back out at the last second, it happens. As for not clicking, hell getting 2 people to click is hard, 4 is extremely difficult. But oh so much fun when it does happen.

Age quesiton - Do swingers of the same age group swing together? - We agree that attitude it more important than age. We swing with older and younger, and they all have been great experiences. We hope to keep meeting great people no matter what the age.

How to find other swingers - - Luvbugs wrote: > > Rumor has it that they congregate together in large online groups where they > share pictures, stories, and sometimes...even get together for crazy group sex. Are you SERIOUS? You mean people actually DO that? Must be those damn people from that KSL bit doing their nefarious recruiting... Who woulda thunk it? ;)

Why make it so HARD? - pic posting - Pics are a huge part of successfully meeting someone on ANY dating site. It has been proven that your chances are 80% greater. Everyone understands the need to be discrete for some people but there are things you can do to get around that. First, of all, you are on a swingers dating site and anyone else who is on here, is here for the same reason. The chance of someone stumbling onto this site and finding you is very, very slim. There are thousands of adult sites out there. Honestly, they would have to have some presumption of you being on here in the first place to even get close. With that said though, that chance can still worry some people but that is why we have private and custom photo albums. It allows you to pick and choose who you wish to view your photos. So unless you use your real names or a familiar username on your profile, there is no way anyone can relate your profile to your real person. As a second measure of protection, cut off the picture at your heads or blur out your faces. Then as you move along in your contact, send an attachment with just your faces. There are plenty of ways you can protect yourself yet still allow someone to see your photos. But if you still believe that someone is going to catch you with those slim chances, then maybe your best bet is to not even create profiles on a dating site. Because without pics, you probably won't meet many people.

age versus pics - - We have always had pics with our profiles, and we don't mind letting people see who we are. We've never had any problems yet. We figure if someone sees us on a swingers website, they must be there for the same reasons we are, or they wouldn't be looking in the first place. We have pictures from last week, and we have some from several years ago. I doubt if anyone could really tell the difference. We're one of those lucky couples who have looked the same for a long time. We feel that if our pics are an accurate view of what we really look like, it really doesn't matter how old they are. We'd never try to fool anyone about what we look like. That would be dishonest, and that's just not us. Gary & Paula