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Do you think they're swingers? - - If you want to skip his crazy rant and fast forward to the good part go to about the 1:14 mark. LOL
couples gf? - has any couples thought of this or had/have a gf - [quote=ABCMAN][quote=ASSETS][quote=VIRANI]is it wrong of me to believe that no girlfriend of a couple should expect anything beyond sex?[/quote]
nope. I think the same... if a girlfriend expects more, then she is just setting herself up for a broken heart and disappointment.[/quote]
It's not that easy. What if the man falls for the girlfriend. It is possible to love more then one person romantically, it happens all the time. Even friends of mine who have cheated on their wives, still love their wives, it's not just sex to some of these men.
Sometimes I wonder if "Swingers" or "lifestylers" get so paranoid about falling for someone that they miss some of the fun that comes with sexual play with those you care about or ...cough...love. Love isn't something that is always controllable or a feeling that always can be tamed. I've read these posts for years, and it happens all the time in the lifestyle. Couple "A" plays with single male or female, they play often, soon one of the couple is in love with the secondary, then all hell breaks loose. I just asked myself, why? That person you fell in love with originally is still the same person, they may love someone else as well, but they in most cases still love you as well. Shut down the social conditioning that tells you it's wrong! So is swinging by the way if you listen to those religious cultural voices. Talk it over with your spouse, let them know it's okay to feel what ever they want to feel. Keep those communication lines open, and often the "fallen" partner will realize they love two and they do not have to love only one person. Sorry for the sermon, but I just cringe when I read these replies where people attempt to deny what makes them fundamentally human. It's okay to love others, even if they are not your spouse. Just remember who you are going home with and who was by your side the last umpteen years.[/quote]
I used to work for a MORMON sex therapist... his usual statement" Love is easy... for the most part it requires the right emotion and the right impetus.... It's the RELATIONSHIP that is hard." I love many of the bodies/minds that I've touched... but I've never found a satisfaction better than what I've discovered with a husband of 17 years and our two amazing kids. I don't need anything from outside sources but a chance to see "what's out there..."
Perhaps that's the real difficulty... analyzing our motives and admitting our jealousies. For example, I consider myself flat chested... It's why I LOVE encounters with buxom women... but I am willing to admit that my interest comes from a place of jealousy ... I don't ignore jealousies...I use them to my advantage. I am not girlfriend material... Monogamy bores me. But I do fit in with the group of couples who want full honesty.
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Cancer......
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Tami...
Don't waste your time...THe problem is he is immature...look at the typing, what is this myspace and we are all about 12 or 13?
Waaaaa....You would pay for it? why not pay to get some cleaned up teeth and stuff...Maybe a shirt that does not scream 80's? Wonder how popular you are in Indiana or wherever the hell your trailer is located?
Anyway...Let the crying begin with waaaa leading the way crying all the way...
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Neuroscience makes morality out to be largely born in and more complicated than just "stuff god doesn't like". For example, what one may see as an immoral act may in fact be quite honorable to someone in that person's in group. A gang banger seems immoral when he kills a rival gang member but a soldier is doing the same thing except that we call the gangs nations. What religion manages to do is take false credit for morality so that it can attach additional memes on so we get motivated to do those too. This amounts to "lying is bad so sex must be bad too". The problem with buying into that logic is that not everything churches say are bad actually are and can even override true morality. For instance, a religious hatred of homosexuals. This doesn't always happen and there are many influencing factors (again morality is quite complicated according to neuroscience) but it is often a potent driving factor. The short answer is that the more people you include in your in group the more people you will act morally toward.
POLL - Instead of playing GSC's game. - You got us (TR) there. We have never hooked up with anyone. Perhaps it's because we don't show up to parties with expectations and demands, like some people. I know we have issues making friends, we are not well liked, you and your wife are so much better looking and far better swingers, but hey... I am trying. Give me a break. Perhaps if I get in people's face and accuse them of being "wanna be's" or "fakes", they might fold under the pressure and fuck my fat pathetic ass and choke and gag through the experience of fucking my C.H.U.D. of a wife. I apologize oh lord of swing. Please forgive my transgressions, my blaspheming and direspect of your sheer awesomeness.
-D-
Do you long for your "vanilla" friends? - Have you been with any? - [quote=theseduction747]Being new to Utah I can not imagine how you deal with friends here with all the LDS people here. But it appears there are more LDS that have a secret side than people realize. Now how to find that out may be the trick. I always cut up and joke so they would be able to get the hint so they could decide on making the move or not. If you comment in a fun way in a joking environment eventually information will start being revealed. If not they are probably not into it and you can always excuse it as joking or cutting up. lol I have found out more than I wanted to know from some friends of ours over the years. Even some we had no interest in. It is just my nature to cut up a make funny comments. So they get comfortable talking back. That can backfire too lol. [/quote]
The feeling we've gotten from chatting privately with people here is that a good percentage of swingers in Utah are indeed LDS, whether active or inactive. Appears too a good number are former LDS members cutting loose. With no judgement or disrespect to the LDS reading this, I find it fascinating.
At any rate, thanks for the post and good idea with joking around.
Can bieng Mormon (LDS) and a Swinger co-exist? - - If Catholics can have pedophile priests, Muslims have sexist wife beating terrorists and Baptists racist incestious siblings, then The LDS Church can have swingers. Why not; everyone outside the LDS Church is misled about the mormons all being polygamists anyway. I don't think others' perceptions will change much if you lead a double-life. People are kinda dense that way. <-*Joke* HAHAHA... No... well ahem..
Ultimately, it only matters what you think and feel to be good for you. If you live life for others, then you will not have lived at all. Absorb your environment and mold yourself in a manner that is consistent with your belief system, morals and happiness. You know your own heart and what's right for you.
We believe as long as all human parties are of consenting age and have given consent, nothing is wrong for you sexually. We'll do what the hell we want with our bodies. As I (Don) am not religious in anyway, I don't want to have anything to do with organized religion and all their hypocrisies. This is our stance. Take it for what you will.
-TR-
P.S. If I hurt your religious feelings.... Remember forgiveness :-)
NEW ORLANDO LIFESTYLE CLUB! - Playtyme Night Club 7432 Universal Blvd (behind Wet n Wild) - It's 2 blocks off I drive and closed to the public on the weekends...
However, Orange county and Orlando are both pretty bad for the lifestyle, much much too conservative!!!, however if you want to get out and meet attractive swingers, it's a nice alternative to the OBT option!!!
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - we ike to know the cpl a little b4 fucking... but the extent is like what music do you listen to... do u play chess...what r ur hobbies...etc... dont care that your mothers brothers, cousins brothers sister is a slut... tmi... but knowing the cpl and some of their interests is food for thought for activitys outside the bedroom.....but the b4 mentioned drama is what we try to avoid.....just our 2cents worth...dennis and sara
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