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Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - "only people who dont get laid enough seem to complain about the Lifestyle ? All we can say is "Go Get Laid" and Clean up your Own Back Yard First ! "
Not sure what was meant by this? Not even really sure who it was directed toward.
Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - [quote=IHORUS69]Jen and I have been to "on-premises" swingers clubs all over the country. Number one hands down is New Horizons in Seattle. (No single men) . Second place is Freedom Acres, San Bernardino (No single men) and close third is Collette's in New Orleans (No single men). Don't waste your time on the East Coast or Chicago. Sad. In Vegas, each club has negatives, but the best in Vegas BY FAR is the Green Door hands down. We have been to all three on-premises clubs (not counting power exchange) and we will not ever go back to neither the rooster nor Oasis. The Green Door is big. VERY big compared to the other two. Its up-to date, and clean. Clean is very important when it comes to potentially how funky sex can deteriorate to--especially as funky as most of the people are at the Rooster. Now, that doesn't mean we haven't met other HOT couples who lost their way and went to the rooster, but I think we just got lucky. There are some scary effen and out-of-shape folks there. We even saw one loser getting tazed there. The Deco of the place is 70's at best and the high-light of the evening is some guy who croons Neil Diamond songs. Good god. up stairs play room is very small and inadequate. Oasis, bring your own date if you want to play. Very cliquey, very much like Chicago. Now the rooster and the Door both have single guys. But the Single guys at the rooster walk around with dick-in-hand and swarm like sharks. At the door there are a lot more areas where they cannot go but can watch from a distance, and they seem a LOT less tacky. Hope that helps. We love SLC swingers. Its a shame there is no on-premises club there yet.[/quote]
As an out of towner as well, agree with you about most. Been to the rooster once, never again, repulsive, rooting from the cleanliness of the entire place. Been to the Green Door, the cleanliness you would expect. Common area and viewing area littered with single men, seems to be promoting their store. Not traveled like you, but have Trapeze in Miami area to compare these with, also in Atlanta which I find much more desirable than vegas clubs. The Artisan is a fun place and most times you can get something started if that is what you are looking for. Also find the VIP parties at Paris a great place to find like minded people, while not designated as a swinger club, easy to spot the couples looking for a lost night in vegas if that is what you are looking for.
Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - I always seem to bring up the dead topics because I don't forum check every day, just when I can't sleep...
I get asked a lot where single men fit in swinging, since we openly invite them into our play time and I loved TequilaRose's response. Thank you for putting the perfect words down for me. And I quote so all can read them again, as I find them truly important to understand:
"...singles can be swingers. swinging is not a "couple" only thing. Swinger or Libertine means that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex. In other words, you don't need to honor the "holy matrimonial sanctity" of a married couple, whether you are in the married couple or wishing to engage in sex with them. So I still contend that a swinger can not be pigeon holed as a swapping couple only. "
Swapping is partner exchange, swinging is open minded people be they male, female, straight, gay, or bi, married or single.
The original poster wanted to know good advice for the single male to be picked out of the see of choices, and here are my criteria, which btw are things I say long before I arrange to sleep with them.
1. Never approach me (in person or email) and just say "wanna fuck" It's never funny, and always gets you a no thanks. If you like my profile, say something, don't just "someone likes you" It makes you look like a picture hunter and I'll delete it without even looking at you.
2. Listen to and adhear to my personal 'rules' which are:
you are not my new best friend. I don't want daily text messages or phone calls. If I was looking for phone sex, I'd call my hubby at work. I prefer the 'you free thursday at 11am?' messages. If we pick a time, stick to it. You only get one chance. You stand me up, you're history.
Hubby will always know where I am and with who and will hear all the kinky details. Nothing is secret or behind his back.
Hotels are on your dime, not mine. If you don't have a suitable bachelor pad for our afternoon delights, I'm gonna think you're married and lied to me
Afternoons I might be able to fit you in, nights and weekends I spend with hubby. When looking to play alone with a single guy, I will never pick time with you over time I could be with him. Don't even ask.
3. NO CHEATERS, ever. If I find out you're married and lied to me, I warn you up front, I will be the girl that calls her up and tells her. Might even have pics to prove it.... watch out, I bite.
4. Stick to the girls/couples rules, it's respectful, and everyones are going to be different.
The above mentioned almost sound mean, but it's just upfront. The men I've met are more than happy to adhere to my rules of conduct. I have had only good experiences from the single men I've met on this site. Not all ended up regulars, but no experience was 'negative'. The only really bad swing experience we had was when we first started swinging over 8 years ago, and it was with the male half of a couple. Didn't scare us away from other couples, we just learned from it and moved on.
The bashing is stupid and as soon as someone opens their mouth and lashes out at someone else opinions they drop massive IQ points in my book. Too sad.....
Do what makes you happy and ignore the rest. Enjoy "that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex" :)
Mrs Curious
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - We have been on many kik chat groups in the past. But, we have never been on one as good as this one. There are lots of funny conversations and sexy things going on. There is even talk of setting up parties.
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Thanks WEFLY !!!! You two are one of many other couples we have met that are fun and drama free. Looking forward to more fun in the near future! xoxoXXX
People Who Try Too Hard - - Whoever could you mean??? LOL
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/forum
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/conversationalist
If there is an ongoing debate in the forum (it's usually called a discussion... The very point of a forum), then wouldn't you agree that the likelihood of someone involved in a conversation, posting more than one time, is pretty damn good? Ask yourselves, how many one sentence or one statement conversations have you had in life? People who enjoy or seek this in forums are called "conversationalists". It's not wrong to get to know others. That is, after all, the reason we are all here.
The poster puts their view out and the reader can decide whether they agree, disagree or desire to further discuss or elaborate on their side. It's like a dance of the minds. Some like the waltz, some like salsa, while others like a Mosh Pit. Just because you don't mosh doesn't mean that you should attempt to deny others of enjoying it. Tolerance is what I am getting at.
I am a self-proclaimed asshole, but I still have the right to express myself. I have differing views from lots of people here. That's what I find to be beautiful about people. We are all unique in some form or another. It's uncovering those uniquities, I find to be the "buried treasures" among the vast diversity of people that post here. It's a small window into their being. You don't always like what you see, but it's still there no matter how much you complain.
It's like those who had DJQ kicked off of here. I hated his views and all for which he stood, but in the end all he was guilty of was written expression of his view. Many wanted his head to roll and had him removed. Why? Because he didn't agree. Hell, he attacked my very service to this country. I hated his views. However, I still think he had the right to speak his heart. Admittedly, The forum became slightly less exciting after he left. The majority who read the forum remember what a prick he was, but they do remember him. He contributed to the conversation, no matter how skewed we felt his leftist position to be.
I'll close my post with this... We are swingers... Don't you think people would disagree with our lifestyle choices, our views on marriage and the morale implications (if you are religious)?
Furthermore, doesn't it all come down to personal choice. Just like you have the choice not to read this very post. :-) Just my thoughts, nothing more.
Respectfully,
-Mr TR-
P.S. I whole-heartedly invite you to tell me to fuck off for my differing view. :-)
couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - WHAT A CROCK!!!!!!
We entertain single men...AND we do NOT fall into any one of your previously mentioned categories...
What it boils down to is this...WHATEVER YOU ENJOY...
To blame single males for STD's is ludacris AT BEST...Like HIV/AIDS is a gay male thing...What a crock of shit...If you were as educated as you just claimed, you would KNOW that is not true...The spread of STD's is from just as previously stated, UNPROTECTED SEX...Not bi males, not gay males, not swingers, not anything but UNPROTECTED SEX....
YES...there are asshole single men who think that swinging is about an easy piece of ass, but to claim they are all that way is simply an asshole trying to stereotype someone...Next thing you know...Black guys have big dicks, white guys can't jump, Jewish people are cheap, etc will be spewing from your keyboard...I cannot believe this utter nonsense....
As to entertaining single men...We do for one simple reason...WE WANT TO!!!!!!
Think of this dumbass...How many people did you date before you found a woman stupid enough to put up with your shit for any length of time? I see...I am sure it took you a while...
Now...Look at this...How can you ENSURE you will make a friend with anyone? LIMIT the number of people...IT is MUCH easier to connect with a single than a couple...Why, you may ask? Think back to dating or as simple as making a friend...Was it easier to make a friend who was part of a group? or perhaps it was easier when they were also alone and without a friend? Hmmmm.....NOW, add to it the fact that there are so many asshole men married to women who have learned to put up with it...Hmmmmmmm....
NOW you can see why we play with singles....
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We have met most via the web. The first couples we met were at a club but since then is all the web.. We have also noticed that a lot of local couples say they want to meet but when presented with a genuine couple that is local (same town or next one over) we try to meet and then get the
Serious questions from a newbie.. - - I read that the lack of drug use creates intelligent individuals to leave incredibly lengthy posts about the subject of drugs and their effect on Swingers and the general population!
Let's start a thread about secrets and techniques that increase the frequency and intensity of the male and female orgasm! Now that would be worthy of 4 pages and hundreds of paragraphs... LOL.
I'm just joking with you guys.. Compelling information and well thought out responses. Enjoy what's left of your weekend..
UtHot
S#!% swingers say - - I don't know how many have seen the youtube video "Shit Swingers Say," but it's pretty funny.
I don't know if I can embed video on this forum, but I will try. If this doesn't work, just search youtube for "shit swingers say." You will laugh, or your money back!
