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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em] [/quote]
Damnit! Evildoers is right again!
Where in Cancun, Mexico - - Where in Cancun, Mexico can we hang out to meet locals and other swingers.
Our frist trip without the kids and we wanna play there.
We will appreciate all suggestions, thank in advance.
Amusing - Fakes.. ugh.. DESPISE THEM! - Maybe it is a testament to how much time I spend on these sites but I find this kind of thing frequently. Often a couple on one site is a single guy on another. Sometimes even on the same site under a different account. Want to know why this happens? Look at the following:
Posted By: ADMINISTRATOR Reply posted on:
Apr 27, 2006 - 5:38 pm
I don't understand how they think they can get away with it. They don't think at least ONE person is going to recognize the pictures? Come on now!!! We're taking care of this immediately.
In this case, the admin replied they would address this "immediately" yet a week later the account is still active with the same pics. Without real action on the admin's part, there is little to dissuade these clowns.
Add to this those idiots who post as a couple but turn out to be either cheating marrieds or just single losers. We have traveled as much as 1500 miles each way to meet a couple and discovered there was either no wife at all or one who was unaware of the husband's activities. There is also my favorite, married guys posting as a couple and then leaving all the wife's info blank.
It seems there is just about no way for honest swingers to find someone to have a good time with. The web is just full of posers and liars who apparently cannot get a date or make a buck without posting a fake profile on a lifestyle site.
Remember to always be careful out there. It really is a jungle and there are plenty of nuts in those trees!
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Wishbones - - seems like every swingers club has had the same disscussion with different symbols. getting to the point where you can't wear any kind of jewelry with out being labeled something or other. how about something more club oreinted like a swingular necklace or bumpersticker. there will still be those who would rather be more descrete but something the club should consider. as far as the wishbone? we'll wait and see if it becomes a fad or not.
(Utah) Golf get together... - Any golf meet and greets going on? - I love this idea! Golf has soooo many terms that can be turned sexual!! I think playing golf with a bunch of swingers and talking dirty the whole time...whoa what a sexual build up for great fucking afterwards. Count us in!
Utah Meetup group - - So ive been asked to post my thoughts to get people more active and going to meet and greets. This is somewhat of a copy/paste of what ive said before:
Events that have requirements or have an adventurous nature get alot of responses and lots of people going.
One thing on these meet and greets is the incredibly shy new comers. The hard thing is getting people actually meeting and separating the cliques. So one thing ive thought about is having a meet up where everyone is required to introduce themselves to at least 10 new people before the meet and greet concludes. The greeting must include your name, age, years in the LS, what your looking for(another couple, single(m/f)), a fantasy, etc just stuff like that.
For some telling a new couple you enjoy watching your spouse get fucked by someone you just met might seem awkward, but its less so when its instructed as part of a greeting.
Plus Reminding everyone your all SWINGERS, this is the point anyways lol. Your not meeting a random person, your meeting a swinger whose there with intentions the same as you!
Even like adding a fun after party thing like a Meet and Great Score that people get to post on the forums after the M&G which everyone gets to see just how involved people were and to improve it for the next one. Like every couple you meet gives you 10 points(max of 100 for 10 people), Get someones kik/phone number(50pts, max of 5), Play with someone you met from the event that night(350pts). The next day everyone can post their points an you get to see just how involved everyone is. You get 500pts you were fully involved. if your short anywhere then hey you get a chance to improve next time and it kinda adds a naughty adventure to things.
But these are my thoughts
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I would like to point out one thing, when you are a single male you and you are straight and you want a couple then you bring nothing to table. You have nothing to offer the husband of the couple aside from a show but you are asking the man of the couple to share his wife with you with nothing more then a thank you in exchange, in most cases single men have a gf or wife but simply do not want to risk sharing them because they are afraid of losing them, having them leave or know thats what you want to start doing or will be trying to do or they do not want to take the effort and risk and time to get their partner involved.
There is also the point that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. We have had single men in the past but those single men had the highest respect for our relationship, they also did not get anything right away and had to show their merit as a sincere person that wanted friendship but no emotional attachment. In this day and age of disease we also are very selective with the people we swing with for obvious reasons.
As a final note, if and when you find a female partner and she lives with you in a commited relationship if you are already not in one will you be willing to share her with another man with nothing in return? Ill be willing to bet like most couples you will seek only a single female to join you in a threeway.
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - We are looking more for some interaction with others SUENDAN, LOL. It's always an option to have a party for 2 however. May try suggestions from PANDJSWING. Thanks for responding.
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - Wish I was there in Utah. Would love to join in for a few rounds. When I lived in Phx. I had a pal who was had a open relationship. Winner got the wife after the round. She loved the exhibition trophy sex.
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