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D&D free? - is this an oxymoron? - As I've been pondering all the intriguing aspects of this new world we are entering, something doesn't mesh in my mind. We live in a nation where billions (at least multi-millions) are spent daily to advertise drugs. This is done because it enables the drug companies to make multi-billions selling drugs. You can get prescription drugs for everything from your pecker to your severe depression about your pecker! And this is only the legal/prescription drug industry - I imagine the illegal drug business is even bigger. Just exactly where do all these drugs go? I suppose a lot are consumed by folks who have minimal concerns about engaging in high risk activities? Hmmm..... swingers?nah? Fact is the math would indicate that there is a lot more coursing through the veins of just about everyone we encounter than just the good ol redwhite&blue! Same goes for disease. I don't believe the existence of most of it is caused by long-term monogamous relationships. When you are only as safe as the very last physical contact you have and you deal in a world of relative strangers, well, you get the picture. I hope these are not interpreted to be negative comments. I truly am just trying to figure out the mentality of the profiles I read. It strikes me the whole "d&d free" thing is either a formality/some sort of cover-your-ass disclaimer or just people kidding themselves.

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - From certain perspectives yes that's what I'm saying. Religion twists things but from the view of an Islamic extremest what those terrorists did on that plane was the pinnacle of a moral example. From our point of view it was horrid and sick. We are in the out group to these terrorists and religion has warped their view so that they think they need to defend the ideals of their in group. Understanding that they believe they are doing good things doesn't excuse them from the bad things they do. Like how the Pope isn't innocent for using his influence to stop people from using condoms in countries riddled with AIDS and parent less children. He believes he is doing right but is inexcusable.

Why are there prostitutes on Swingular? - - [quote=ANONYMOUS]I do marketing for a living if anyone wants to hire me. ;)[/quote] I was referring to the prostitute being a smart business person for using a swingers web site. Because as everyone has pointed out. WAYYYYY TOO MANY SINGLE MEN and not enough single women.

Swingle males. What's in it for you? - - >So are a lot of the chicks in the hookup scene cray cray? People in general are half-baked critters. The hookup scene tends to silently give desperation a pass, which brings out some odd folk. >"Copping a pregnancy on the sly" is pretty low. Is it that common? It's not extremely common, but it happens, and ties into the the desperation remark above. Especially once you're in the mix with people in their late 30's. Shit's no fun at all. >Also, the "stranger danger and blind sexual incompatibility" seems like it would be more or less >equally as prevalent in the lifestyle. This isn't my first rodeo. I did the majority of screening when rolling as a couple for several years. There are "off" people in the scene, but word spread fast. Whether they are unstable as a couple, or unstable as a person, they tend to burn out and fade out pretty quickly in my experience. Sexual incompatibility happens, sure, but the odds are good it won't be a first encounter. Friends first (chat friends at the very least) is how I like things. >Not to mention STD's stalkers and cheats. What makes you think swingers are inherently more >trustworthy in any given situation? Please refer to the above. :) It's not necessarily a matter of being more trustworthy. There are plenty of scummy, dishonest, and dangerous swingers. However, the traditionally encouraged rules and boundaries that (what I'm assuming is) the majority of the community acknowledges tend to oust em pretty quickly.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=LVDREAMER]THANK YOU, HOTTIEHOGANS....there are some single guys out there who are NOT ASSHOLES. Sadly though, we get clumped into the bunch who are. Nice to see someone knows the difference![/quote] Your Welcome! I love single guys. They are fun most of the time. Only a few I have met are totally weird lol. But overall we have had a good experience with the ones we've met

Does that couple swing? - - I usually wonder that a lot when I go to bars that are known to have swingers hangout there.

Hanging out this weekend - Habits tonight?? - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=HERRIMANFUN]We enjoy it if there is a couple we are interested in they have sections that aren't so loud that you can talk. But yes it is loud. And we have run into lots of swingers there lots of times. But I hear that a lot I think most people don't talk to people or just walk up to a stranger(s) and say hi. But I the male half does a lot that's how you meet people and then once you chat a bit it comes out that they are swingers. Not a big fan of he meet and greets it's always the same people unfortunately. And that's great for some but we haven't really made a connection at any that we have been too, yet. [/quote] We have been to the meet and greets too and we don't go very often and have not been to one in ages. Maybe twice a year we hit one but when we do go we pretty much introduce ourselves to everybody and if we missed someone we didn't mean to. You do have to be proactive to be successful in meeting people or at least reactive in a positive fashion when someone interesting approaches you. We have been to Habits and ended up leaving with someone, but we had already had a bit of friendly back and forth somehow with the people we left with or it was someone we met previously and had at least chatted a bit. We think we have only been there maybe five times altogether. Well, maybe Mr. Delicious will put on a collared shirt just in case we head that way but for now we are thinking maybe the Green Pig sounds fun. [/quote] Well if you make it to Habits please come and say hello.

C- A - Any swingers clubs around Salt lake? - [quote=Harleynight12345678]Redemption is a fun spot, or the rusty nail is fun as well.[/quote] Redemption is fun haven’t heard of the rusty nail so you need a tetanus shot to go there

Hello summer - Swingers couple party - [quote=MoreFun4U]Short answer is because a large number of couples will not attend an event without some type of filter for single men, and without couples it's a non event. The reason why a large number of couples will not attend such an event are varied.[/quote] Having been in the lifestyle for a while now, here’s some experiences we’ve had. Parties with unrestricted access to single males: we attended a party with a ratio of 10 men to each woman, that was not a gang-bang. And only 3-4 of the women were willing to play (Mrs being one of them). It was not as fun and lots of people decided to leave after an hour or so. Parties with screened single men. These are usually better. These guys usually understand the expectations and are respectful. That being said some “coupled” men have gotten overly aggressive and have been asked to leave. Still these are generally much better, with folks much more relaxed and having a great time. The ladies feel more free to do as they like without feeling like they’ll be swarmed by dicks like they’re in a bukkake film. Clubs with lots of single men. First, when we arrived there were LOTS of men waiting to get in. Then when we got in, lots of dudes were all over Mrs. She does like the attention, but can get overwhelmed. When she did select a nice, respectful guy to take for some fun, we went to a play room and got undressed, then he let in 3 more dudes. Presumably he had an agreement to let his buddies in, and had not asked Mrs. if that would be okay. We told them to get out, all of them. Had to get staff to assist and escort them out. Never went back. And we’ve been cautious about venues with lots of loose dicks ever since. So it’s not usually anything about any single man in particular, but experience has shown us, and many in the lifestyle, that having lots of loose dicks about can at best put a damper on a party, and at worst generate lots of drama. And this is why we don’t attend events with lots of single men and very few of any other demographic.

The Hunt Club of Brevard is in the news - And I thought Utah was a news hog - Suspected sex club faces investigation Police chief says Hunt Club should be closed City officials are investigating an alleged swingers club that entices customers to "explore the sensual and sexual side of the lifestyle" in a sleepy neighborhood off Turtle Mound Road. The Hunt Club of Brevard -- a 2,534-square-foot house in the Oak Grove Acres subdivision -- on its Web site touts group and private rooms, a stage and dancing pole, swimming pool, buffet-style dining and "The Pink Cauldron" (a five-person hot tub). Prompted by complaints from neighbors, two undercover Melbourne police officers -- one male, one female -- posed as a couple, and toured the house in late-March, Police Chief Don Carey said. Inside, the officers noticed a stripper pole and swinging sex chair, and they learned one of the bedrooms was converted into an "observation room," he said. No lawbreaking activities were noted, Carey said -- "they were consenting adults doing stuff in private that wasn't criminal" -- and the police investigation was closed with no charges filed. Regardless, Carey believes The Hunt Club is an illegal establishment that should shut down. "It's my opinion that the people there are operating a business out of their home. They're violating the zoning in that area, because they're not allowed to have customers in their home," Carey said. "It is a business. If they feel differently, they can challenge us in the courts." Kirsi Page, one of the operators of The Hunt Club, said there is nothing illegal or improper about the establishment. The 1.3-acre property is zoned for residential use, said Cindy Dittmer, Melbourne's planning and economic development director. City Attorney Paul Gougelman said officials still are researching "various angles" that could reveal municipal code infractions. Friday night, nearly two dozen neighbors protested outside the house, said Larry Groves, who lives across the street. One large sign displayed the message "The Hunt Club Not Wanted Here." Despite their efforts, Groves said more than 20 vehicles pulled into the driveway and parked in the backyard. "Some of the cars left, and came back with their tags taken off. Some of them didn't care," he said. Groves said he is worried about crime and sexual predators. "This is a dead-end cul-de-sac. We don't have any bylaws in the development here that prevents anything like that. It can happen in any neighborhood in Melbourne," he said. "Whether they broke the law or not, the intent is not good for a quiet community. We're trying to protect our investments and our lifestyle and our morality level." The eight houses on Beth Lane -- including the alleged sex club -- range in market value from $286,000 to $481,000, Brevard County Property Appraiser's Office records show. The house's rental tenants are Richard Spalding and Kirsi Page. In an e-mail interview on Monday, Page said The Hunt Club was founded in mid-January, and the organizers do not allow illegal activity, drugs or prostitution. "Our opinion of our neighbors is that they are bigots. Our sexual practices and preferences are different from what they think is OK, so they are trying to make our lives miserable," Page wrote. "We know that we're OK, and that they are close-minded and full of hate." Admission at The Hunt Club is advertised as free, although donations are accepted. "Secure parking" is provided by a fenced yard behind the house, and online membership registration is available. The group seeks investors to ante up $60,000 by mid-June to build a 4,000-square-foot complex with eight bedrooms. "What you see when you come to a party is a group of adults mingling, flirting, laughing and sometimes dancing. The parties are very quiet, to the point that you cannot hear any noise out on the street in front of our house," Page stated. "I think that our neighbors' imagination is much more depraved than anything we are actually doing. And I think they've forgotten something important . . . having sex is not illegal," she wrote. Already this month, this private residence has hosted various sexually themed Friday events -- including a pajama party and a secretary-teacher-schoolgirl soiree, an online schedule indicates. This week, the house plans to host a "Naughty Girls, Ice Cream and High Heels Social." Page said in a subsequent interview that the club is not a business. Rather, some attendees make voluntary donations to help cover costs for food, towels and sheets, she said. The tenants rent the home from Pennsylvania resident Penny D. Hanson. In an e-mail interview Monday, she wrote she might hire an attorney to deal with club-related problems. "I had no idea that my tenants were involved in this until my neighbors brought it to my attention," Hanson wrote. "I will not be renewing their lease in October because of 1) all of the problems they are causing within the neighborhood and 2) the extreme wear and tear these parties are causing on my home and yard." Melbourne's 39-acre adult-entertainment district lies miles to the south, along North Drive. The city's sole licensed sexually oriented business is Hot Flixx, a Sarno Road adult bookstore. Sindarellaz, a nude dance cabaret in the Sarno Industrial Park that featured women taking showers onstage, shut down in May 2006 after a police crackdown.