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A paradigm shift - polyamory - Your thoughts? Here are mine... - Hitting the topic of Poly.... I am poly my wife is not. We swing. I have a lady friend, spice if you will who is also married and her husband is not poly and they do not swing. We, all 4 of us are fast friends and both my wife and her husband have no problem with her's and my arrangement. THey also know that We swing. Now how did that person come into our life.. we met and became friends almost immediatly. I fell in love with her but am sill "IN love with my wife as well. I< we, like to become friends with people before we jump into the sack with them... BTW they both know that we swing. Could I fall in love with another woman, definitely.. Could I fall for a woman who we might swing with....I could and have. No biggy...If she is not into that I understand... Not everyone can handle the situation
Some one mentioned that jealousy are natural.... Only in the sense that by example we are programmed to them, just as we are not "taught " not to eat other people but we kind of get that impression...Canibalism(sp) is not acceptable any more than is marrying ones own sister or brother. Possessiveness is about owning somthing that is not yours to own. No one owns anyone else and especially not their spouse. Is it natural to own a person? I say no. Somehow when people get into a relationship the idea creeps in that says that the other person is your exclusive property. One need to put that aside if one is a swinger. As for jealousy.... Jealousy is a combination of both possessiveness and ones own insadequacies. Maybe one could describe that as fear.. Fear that she or he will meet someone better. Fear that we are not good enough, etc etc etc. So Jealousy is a reaction to these fears and the possessiveness not a true emotion at all. Everyone thinks of Jealousy as an emotion, which it is not.
So polyamory is very possibly with swinging but may purists of poly will say that poly and swinging are difinitely two different things... Maybe but they can exist simultaneously.
Just a note; More than 60% and I've seen figures up to 77% of all married couples, and I'm sure that it extends to LTR's as well...maybe even swingers, are at some time in their life engaged in serial monogamy..; i.e., either cheating or getting ready for the split-up. Isn't this a simpler form of or something like poly? ... THink about that....
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Hehehe...See Te! You've got a lot of people covering your back! ;)
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Don & Tami aka SGT and SPC Cole,
We'll go in order here with the few things we have to say.
1. As an active duty career military family, our hearts go out to our fallen brothers/sisters and their families.
2. Your response could not have been worded any better. Kudos!
3. As for the Don Juan issue, this might take a minute. I've read a lot here about "protecting his rights to speak his opinion" and the like. I agree to an extent, but this dude rides so far out on the left wing that we might just be able to label him as a "domestic enemy." Myself and many other members of this site are sworn to protect this country from the like. I propose that Don Juan reveal his true identity and we deal with him accordingly. Not only for the shoving of his misguided opinions, but for using profanity in the direction of my wife in a forum and an email (yes, I remember and will not soon forget).
V/R
Chris & Dawn aka CW2 and the Mrs.
Earthquake - - You guys have super powers now? SWEET! What are they? X-ray vision? Turning water into Moscato? Turning a crock pot of swinger meatballs into coconut macaroons? [em]Emo_96[/em]
Yeah I think Jesus is just punishing all the naughty fuckers in Bountiful. We have it on good authority (Kevin Eubanks lives there) that Bountiful is FULL of the raunchiest swingers imaginable. In fact they've talked about annexing Woods Cross and renaming the place Sodom and Gomorrah. Last week there was a gas leak on 5th West. Next week it will prolly be e.coli at Pace's Dairy Ann. [em]Emo_8[/em]
BiCouple2018 - Texas Swingers? - You'll have my screen name from this message. My FWB's handle is kitkat1168 we can't travel to college station, but possibly could meet you folks in Houston when when you go there.
We are available either together or as singles. I have a lot of experience in MMF & MFM 3somes. She is a newbie, but ready for anything. She especially wants to get into the FF action and get ears deep. I excel in that area as well. Sessions should be measured in hours, not minutes.
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We enjoy meeting new couples as well. The problem with getting out there more often, is our work schedules. We've gone as far as to send a picture of ourselves or cell number to try and meet new couples. Maybe we're doing it wrong, lol. But even a simple "No Thank You" is better than not getting a response at all.
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - Another idea, probably bad:
Park City has a free bus system. During the summer at least, there are lots of places that owners and agencies want to rent out. With this economy, some of these places may even be empty during the winter.
People could park in the parking structure near downtown or even out at Newpark and take the bus over to the condo for the party. No complaints from neighbors about parking; cops would have to take pictures of every single car in the parking garage or the Newpark parking lot.
weight approperate - - We have been in the lifestyle together for 10 years now and couples not being up front about just wanting to play with the wife alone has always been a problem with us. We let people know upfront we only play together.
Now on the weight subject...We advertise ourselves unashamedly about being a BBW/BHM couple. We also let people know if its Ken and Barbie they want they need to move on down to the next profile. We have played with HWP couples as well as with Big Beautiful Couples like ourselves. The HWP couples we have played with in the past have been amazed at our level of inhibition and sensuality. In short it was an eye opener for them...Big people can be very sexual.
One thing we have noticed is that lifestyle web sites, magazines and clubs seem to perpetuate the Barbie and Ken mystique. How often on a swinger web site have you seen a BBW, BHM of even a BBC on their front page? The same goes for magazines and advertising for clubs and lifestyle conventions and events. Even here on Swingular we have yet to see even a featured member that is a person or couple of size. In our humble opionion it's something swingers media needs to address.
Our whole take on the topic is this...If your mind is so closed that you can not see beyond exteriors then its your loss.
We started a Yahoo group called Big Beautiful Couples and Ladies a couple years ago with the idea that if membership grew large enough maybe organizing an event similar to Lifestyles or Hedonism II. Though the membership is small we still have the passion for the idea of a convention with Big Beautiful People as the primary attendees. We are still checking to see if there is a similar group here on Swingular and if not we'll be getting it rocking and rolling.
If we want people in the lifestyle to be more accepting of size (both women & men) we have to learn to be our own best advocates.
Have an erotic day
Howie & Susie
Just for kicks & giggles - Ginger or Maryann? - hmmmm....seeing how that we are swingers..we will take both thanks!!!
fff= ginger+mrs. waterdiver+maryann =
fmf for mr. waterdiver as well:D
trying to pick a place to honeymoon - - The guy and I are making plans for a wedding and honeymoon, hopefully later this year. I say Florida, and he says Utah, cause it seems like all the swingers live in Utah. Any suggestions?
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