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really appreciate the "lifestyle" - wanted to reflect - i wanted to repost pretty much a reply i wrote in another forum... it started out about our thoughts on the first time with someone new... was trying to convey our feelings that getting to know people over time made the exp better... and well it seems like more than that in re-reading it... or it could be the painkillers... so if the typing is bad thats why... thxs please enjoy... "1st time is never the best, that is why we like 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so times, making friends,(does not have to be buddys, or move in with you) people you can talk to more than about sex... is what really makes the life great... our continuing story.... rich has a severly broken leg right now... the people that are making life work for us for the most part are swing friends, some are on the site... we had just contracted on a house befor rich's leg, closed from the hospital, a couple we have known for a while got a truck and moved us in our new home... the wife of a couple (on this site) has been taking rich to his appointents, which until recently were every day, her husband fix and painted one of the rooms in the new place just befor the move in... rich's best friend, a single male (on this site)has been there, and a single female friend has been too... many other couples have come by and done a little even if it was a ride to get lunch or dinner... and rich really appreciates the sympathy blow jobs... not everyone you play with will make a connection, but trying for that connection is the best part... and for us, right now, if not for the swingers in our lives, we would be lost in trying to works things out. "

Back to school party **naughty lil school girl night** - club screamers downtown orlando aug 3rd 9pm-3am - Ohfantasy & Next swingers party presents: That time of the year to put those little naughty school girl outfits back on and attend classes again. That's right we will be doing our naughty school girl party come sexy in your outfits or come as a sexy teacher.Class will be held at club Screamers Downtown Orlando.The last school girl party was sexy as heck let's make this one even sexier. Club Screamers is located at 360 State Lane orlando fl 32801.(407-244-0299) It's located right behind the big Bldg of the Bank of America.If staying over night there is a hotel few blocks away Travel Lodge (407-423-1671) This is a private party at the club it will be for our use only people in the Lifestyle.So come join us and our hottest dj in the lifestyle plus 2 full bars and hottest music today.Remember this is a non pressure party and NO SINGLE MALES ALLOWED!!

Preferences? - - Posted By: BEANYKATT Reply posted on: Jan 27, 2008 - 1:02 pm AHHH.NO! DON that is not what I am refering to..anyone who thinks eating Human or any other bodily waste IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED. I think there are ALOT of SO-called SWINGERS who are nothing more than self centered people. As for me I am an equal oppurtunity swinger.. TO exclude anyone..just becaue your dick dosent get hard at the site of them is purely ludicrous.. because that is the whole basis of marriage to be married to that ONE person that DOES everthing for you..so why would you Wife-Swap..Swing or participate in ANY extra marital activities?At one time or another EVERYONE thinks about someone or something else besides their own mate.. NOW that dosent mean that you love or desire your mate ANY LESS..We all have little nuances that our mates dont have.. so just to say that I HAVE to be attracted to someone JUST to have sex ... I dont know sounds sort of suspect to me of something else involved . ============================================================== You know, there are those that think that anyone watching someone fucking his wife's lights out and thinking it IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED too. We live in a self centered world. We do this to avoid that because we find it undesirable or to get that because it is desirable TO US. Good for you. IF my dick can't get hard with this person, what do you want me to do? Take one for the cause of being equal opportunity? I might take one for the team but to have me take one for a cause is kinda difficult, don't you think? I don't follow. Haven't you answered your own question? OK. That is fine. Maybe I have an average dick and she might want a change of pace with a guy with a thick dick once in a while or maybe she wants a change of guy. What do you want me to do about that? Grow a couple inches of girth or be schizophrenic for a bit? What??? Even Cialis cannot get you hard if you are not attracted to that person. What do you expect? The person looks better as you drink more?? Like what else involved are you refering to?

This lifestyle - What are we really? - What are we really? May seem like an easy question to answer or is it. Most might say "oh that easy we are swingers". Maybe you not a swinger at all maybe you polyamous. What the hell is polyamous?! Well polyamory is defined as having more then one love. Isn't that the same as saying friends with benefits. Well yes it is. True swinging is having sex just for the sake of having sex. No talking ...no getting to know each other...not caring one iota about the other person. Basically have sex and if the other person dies on the way home ...who give gives a shit! Not us...not at all. To me this lifestyle is a scale ....true swinger on the one side and true polyamory on the other...We are closer to the poly side as opposed to the true swinger side. WHat is so wonderful about that side is we can have fun with other people even if no actual sex occurs. Sometimes its nice to just be able to go out with like minded folks. Just wanted to let the people who feel the way we do understand that thier is others with the same thought process. Mordon and Jade

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - This has always been a tough controversy. Religion, swinging. I am agnostic and my GF was LDS. Her family is hardcore LDS still and pushed the faith on their daughter (my GF) and her kids even. They preach that they want their whole family in the religion cuz they need to know "right from wrong". I asked the kids (8 & 6 yrs old) what they learn in church.. seems to me all they learn about is how great their "savior" is, how he loves us, and we can look to him, and family is a "unit".. they dont seem to learn anythign about right and wrong. Yet.. her parents try to preach to me that their religion teaches them right from wrong and that their "right & wrong" is the correct one. They are also very controlling, judgemental, pushy, 2-faced, and negative in every aspect... OMG! is this what u learn in church and how family is supposed to be?? They found out we swing, and told me its adultry and we're cheating and its immoral.. OK, umm.. we;re not married and what we do is 100% consentual... funny, but seems like the more LDS we meet, the more seem to be JACK mormons. so why are LDS swinging or why are swingers in religions that condem it? is it just for the prestige and status of being in the church and to shut the family up?? Ok, #1, I hate ppl who follow a faith and feel theirs is the correct one so much that they push it on everyone and judge other beliefs as the wrong ones rather then understanding tolerance and the fact that there is no such thing as right or wrong... only opinion and difference... what works for you may not work for me. #2, I hate hypocrates. ppl who preach about how much they follow their religion, go to church and lie in front of everyone there about how much they follow the rules and how the church has saved them.. Then, behind closed doors, they go against everything they believe in. Then they preach about how much they follow their churches rules and its "right & wrong" is the ultimate. Those ppl are called liars and 2-facers.. #3, Kids should be taught "Right & Wrong" from their parents, not a group of ppl that i described in examples #1 & #2. WTF do they know?? Kids should also be introduced to church by their own choice and when they are old enuf to understand it. [b]In my opinion, If you wanna swing, then it doesnt seem like u really believe in ur church's beliefs... why are u in it? If u believe ur church's teachings above all.. then why are you swinging?[/b] [b]I have nuthing against either, but I think its best to pick a side. Thats why I dont follow any religion.. I dont believe in any of them... too many hypocrates, liars, 2-facers, judgemental, stuck-ups... people who are willing to bend and cheat their own rules, morals and beliefs behind closed doors and especially when its to their benefit...[/b]

Utah? - - OH MY GOSH !!! Swingers in Utah? Has someone talked to KSL about this? It would make a great news story... (just kidding) For the record... its not just an abundance of swingers.. but one heck of alot of very wonderful people. The scenery is fantastic and depending upon where you locate... it may be alittle retro "Mayberry" in some areas... but the peace and quiet is wonderful. You still have the big city atmosphere too if thats something you like.

Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - We will be in Madrid, Spain and Marrakech, Morocco for 2 weeks starting 12/3, we know Morocco is dead but wondered if anyone who's been to Madrid could point us in the right direction? We speak Spanish, so language not a barrier. A and L

Hosting a swingers Party - - As far as I can tell by reading the questioners post, it doesn't seem like he's running a club, a business or a for profit gathering. It sounds like he's just looking to recover shared cost. If that's the case, he doesn't need a lic. & he doesn't need to ask for donations. He's simply renting a suite for a party, and he expects those that have agreed to come to pay their share of the costs. There is nothing illegal about that. And unless he's violating a condition of the room rental, he really shouldn't have anything to fear. If he IS looking for profit, he'll have a lot more to worry about than just the police showing up at his door. Joe

Friend collectors or swingers - - I too am guilty but only because most people don't like my body size, type, etc.

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - Wooo Hoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to have you guys back here again. hugs and kisses