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Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote] That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand. I am glad that my post was read and responded to. I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common. Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?

is soft swap swinging??? - -

MO69,

Great answer! NO ONE defines swinging. Anyone that uses sentences that start with, "Your not a swinger unless.." or "Real swingers do...." or something similar. These people don't know shit. It's just a way to pressure you. It's sophomoric bullshit, used by kids to pressure each other. They're not unlike the morons that measure their worth by their posessions. Spare yourself the trouble.

-Don- _{Proud member of "Free Thinkers"}

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - tpafun.... we tend to disagree with the first paragraph of your post... (we dont do pissing matches often) so as a result we usually just offer our opinion and dont rebuttle anyone elses.. but as far as ... if u are a single male and looking for a couple u bring NOTHING TO THE TABLE... i think thatd be better if it was formed as an opinion..., we do single males on occasion...(fuck here goes our mail box filling up)... sara likes DP... with both vaj, or 1 vaj 1 anal, or having one slam hound her doggie while she does oral... and it gets kinda old with either me or her trying to operate the phallus while we are still trying to focus on what we are doing.. so a live person boes have his uses... not that we just use them... but we do... i read them the riot act priorand explain that if at any point i feel they are disrespectfull or rude or selfish they will leave..THEY ARE HERE FOR SARA'S PLEASURE.. and in return they will get the fucking of a life time... there are a few that their performance warranted them beconing invited over to hot tub and OTHER THINGS every couple weeks or so....but there are those that were perfect gentlemen whom dont get invited back.. for the main reason sara wants more than 5 min of fun... so stamina counts... just like one of our main questions b4 ever meeting.... "what makes u diferent from every other single male out there?" most say they can do oral for hours.. well no shit so can i... but i can give sara oral... she isnt looking for oral....plus she needs to see the tool... sorry guys but she says their are some cocks out there that she wouldnt put in her mouth....... well we would like to write more but we need to get showered n ready for work... dennis and sara

Utah Nude Beach Sunday - hike first then time at the beach - Thats it im having my girl join me shooting at swingers LOL

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - [quote=FLUTTERBI]Maybe in our wildest fantasy. [em]Emo_4[/em] [/quote] Looks like my Toyota MR2 but way newer!!! Nice!!!

CALLING ALL FOOTBALL FANATICS - - I am starting a fantasy league for swingers. This league is for the die hard fantasy football fan. There are some rules. 1. You must display your email address. So other owners may contact you about trades. 2. You must reply to all trade inquiries within 1-3 days. (whether to accept or decline). 3. You can only have one team in this league. 4. No lopsided trades will be allowed. (Meaning: If one owner is gaining way more than the other. The league will veto it. 5. If you are not a fanatic and will not follow your team please don't join this league. 6. If you do not agree with the any of the above rules, please don't join this league. All the rules will be implemented. These rules are in place for a fair and fun season. Again this is for the die hard fantasy football fan. You can find the league on yahoo. Here are the league settings: League ID#: 150145 League Name: Swingers Football League Password: takemywife Draft Type: Live Draft Draft Time: Sat Aug 21 9:45pm CDT Max Teams: 14 Scoring Type: Head-to-Head Start Scoring on: Week 1 Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports Max Moves: No maximum Max Trades: No maximum Trade Reject Time: 2 Trade End Date: November 19, 2004 Trade Review: League Votes Waiver Time: 2 days Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules Playoffs: Week 15, 16 and 17 (8 teams) Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, WR/TE, K, DB, DB, DL, DL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Stat Categories: Passing Yards (30 yards per point) Passing Touchdowns = 6 Interceptions (-2) Rushing Yards (10 yards per point) Rushing Touchdowns = 6 Reception Yards (15 yards per point) Reception Touchdowns = 6 Return Touchdowns = 6 2-Point Conversions (2) Fumbles Lost (-2) Offensive Fumble Return TD = 6 Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3) Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3) Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3) Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4) Field Goals 50+ Yards (5) Point After Attempt Made (1) Tackle Solo (1.5) Tackle Assist (.5) Sack (3) Interception (4) Fumble Force (2) Fumble Recovery (2) Touchdown = 6 Safety (2) Pass Defended (1) Block Kick (2) Fractional Points: No Negative Points: Yes

On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children - IMPORTANT COURT CASE MAY AFFECT SWINGERS WITH CHILDREN NATIONWIDE!!! URGENT NOTICE TO RESPONSIBLE PARTICIPANTS IN THE ADULT LIFESTYLE This Notice is directed to all swingers, exotic dancers, adult business owners and anyone involved in the adult industry. There is a very important legal case going on in the state of Florida which can affect everyone in the swinging and adult community nationwide who has children under the age of 18. Deltadawn who is a fairly well known member of the swinging community in the Tampa Florida area has lost her right to see her 2 1/2 year old baby girl simply due to being a swinger. Deltadawn had shared custody of her 2 1/2 year old baby girl with her "ex," who happens to be an attorney. He found out that she was in the swinging lifestyle and has filed a motion with the Hernando County Court of Florida to remove all of her parental rights, primarily on the basis of her swinger lifestyle. THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE COULD HAVE VERY SERIOUS AND DETRIMENTAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR EVERYONE IN THE ADULT LIFESTYLE. The outcome of this case is critical and could set precedent for everyone involved in any form of the adult lifestyle nationwide. If the argument that participating in the adult lifestyle reflects adversely on parental rights, losing this case could open a Pandora's Box for lifestylers with children across the country. An adverse decision in this action could mean that anyone, gay or straight, with children could be at risk of losing their children and having their parental rights stripped away, simply because of the lifestyle that we all enjoy. Swingers and everyone in the adult entertainment industry would have to live in fear that they may be turned in and could lose their children simply because of our lifestyle choice. WINNING THIS CASE COULD HELP ESTABLISH CASE PRECEDENT AND HELP PROTECT OUR PARENTAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS Winning this case will mean loving parents do not have to live in fear that our legal system, some governmental agency, or some adversarial parent, will have the ability right to terminate your parental rights or take your children, simply because of a lifestyle choice that never involves well nurtured children. The rejection of private sexual lifestyle as a basis for terminating parental rights will set precedent that could serve to protect those in the lifestyle or in the adult entertainment business from unjustified intrusions into their personal lives. Under the U.S. Constitution we should have the right to our lifestyle choice without censure, condemnation and fear of losing our children. Deltadawn has retained Luke Lirot as her attorney in her fight to maintain her parental rights. Luke Lirot is one of the premier Constitutional and adult civil rights attorneys in the country (you can do an internet search of him to verify his credentials). He is constantly traveling all over the country defending peoples civil rights and is a true champion of justice. He is constantly in the newspaper and often appears on television nationwide. As any lawyer, he depends on his clients to provide him with a living, and Justice comes at a price. Deltadawn needs your help... We need all people involved in the swinging community and adult industry, nationwide, to reach into their pockets and contribute to her legal defense fund by donating what help they can to attorney Luke Lirot. THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE COULD HELP US ALL Please make checks or money orders payable to: LUKE LIROT, P.A. (Please write in "Deltadawn Legal Defense Compensation" in the memo section of your check or money order) For further information, please contact: Luke Lirot Attorney and Counselor at Law 112 N. East Street, Suite B Tampa, FL 33602 (Tel) 866-387-8469 (TOLL FREE), OR 813-221-9533 (Fax) 813-221-9175 Email: [email protected] We sincerely appreciate your goodwill and support in this urgent and important matter! POST SCRIPT FROM LUKE LIROT: This legal battle is truly tough. Deltadawn's lifestyle experiences are being used as a weapon to try and take a loving child, much in need of her mother's love, away from her. To stop this effort, we must employ every possible tool at our disposal. We need the services of psychologists, social workers, and other professionals to show that Lifestyle characteristics, never revealed or foisted on any child, have no detrimental impact on children. Under Florida law, like virtually every other jurisdiction in the nation, the factors evaluated by the courts are whether parental contact "is in the best interests of the child." To do this, we need to show that participation in the Lifestyle, in and of itself, does not make anyone a bad parent. There are only a few formalities. Under Florida Law, Rule 4-1.8(f) of the Rules Regulating the Florida Bar governs "Compensation by Third Party," and allows for parties unrelated to the litigation to pay fees and costs on the clients behalf. The Rule states: Compensation by Third Party. A lawyer shall not accept compensation for representing a client from one other than the client unless: 1)The client consents after consultation; 2)There is no interference with the lawyer's independence or professional judgment or with the client/lawyer relationship; and information relating to representation of a client is protected as required by Rule 4-1.6 (confidentiality of information)." If these conditions are acceptable to you, and you care about this important case, we would welcome your help. These donations are not tax deductible, but they are evidence of true human kindness. Thank you! -Luke Lirot-

Empty Nester Lifestyle Group - Like Minded Empty Nesters Activities Group - [quote=Nakkidfun]Hi everyone – we had a tremendous response to this concept with over 40 couples asking to participate. However, once we started posting events we had little to no responses or sign-ups. Given this, we are closing the meetup.com group down. Talk to you in the forums or on Kik![/quote] I know, right? It's almost like a lot of swingers might actually end up being sorta flakey. We can't decide if they're just tire kickers, always on the lookout for the BBD (bigger better deal) but want to have fall-back plans in case their first choice for some reason doesn't work out or if they're really just wannabes who are turned on and titillated by the notion of ALMOST meeting people and/or almost sorta MAYBE thinking about getting naked with other people but too chicken to actually do something. [em]Emo_49[/em] [img]https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/61152555.jpg[/img]

What do you do with Friend Requests? - - We recently added the following to our profile... We seem to be getting loads of blind friend requests without so much as a 'Hi, like your profile...". If you are legitimately interested in meeting us/getting to know us we would hope you would drop us a quick note with your request or we'll probably assume you are just looking to 'perv' our private pictures and say thanks but no thanks. This is ESPECIALLY true is you are not even in the same time zone. In which case you probably ought to offer some explanation as to why we ought to be friends... ;) AND YET, not a day goes by that we don't get two or three blind friend requests with no other note or introduction... don't people read profiles?? If someone can't be bothered to read our profile can we really believe that you are legitimately interested in knowing us? The only other assumption is that you are collecting private pics, collecting 'friends', perv'ing the swingers... NO to the friend request, NO to seeing more of us naked.

Party Group for Non-Redheads - Wouldn't such a group without such flaws be great? - {Warning...this is a goofy parody, not to be taken seriously!!! Warning for the seriousness police!! We've been in this lifestyle awhile, have attended some parties and would like to throw a question out there for debate. Not to get anyone's panties all in a wad by golly, just as a debate of general interest. Yeah, a debate for fun. I like to party with only those folks that I find extremely attractive--you know, those folks that look like me. To that end, I was wondering what you folks thought about starting a group where only non-redheads are invited? Mind you, I've nothing against those redheaded swingers out there, I'm sure they're fine folks. It's just that I find tanned bodies to be much healthier appearing and, lets be honest, redheads don't tan -- they burn. And when we have beach parties it really pains me to see all these redheads slathering on tanning solution yet still burning. Ouch, I can just do without that vision. I feel bad for them, I have great sympathy for their condition. Plus, redheads tend to have lots of freckles. I'm sure that SOME people find freckles to be attractive, just not me. There's nothing wrong with freckles though, I guess. What do you all think? Should we create such a party group to exclude these freckled folk so that we don't all have to play Rorschach games trying to decipher if all those freckles connected represent anything? Oh sure, I could have just created a group or a party event and simply stated my preferences and given information as to how to join my group or party and how to prove to me that you're not a redhead. I've every right to do that and, seeing that we all have our PERSONAL preferences, I believe most folks here would be very supportive of that. But I thought it'd be much more fun to have a public discussion as to the majorities feelings about the "redheaded" look and whether there was an overall agreement that such a non-redheaded party would be popular. NOT to belittle the redheads, mind you, just to have a frank and open discussion. Isn't that what this forum is for, to discuss peoples' physical features that they can't possibly change? Right here in public? Yeah, so don't be negative about my post here, OK? I'm just trying to start a constructive dialog. BTW, I don't mean strawberry blondes. I think those would be OK. As long as they can get a nice tan. Without freckles. I still haven't started my group yet, or announced a proposed party or time. I'm awaiting all of your input as to this great idea and what you yourselves think about these redheaded swinger folk. So post up your opinions so that I can decide whether I want to start this group or not! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OK, I'm trying to be tongue-in-cheek here, so I'm already in trouble with the seriousness police. But is my approach here really all that different than what has seemed to be occurring on this board lately? I really have NO objection at all to folks personal preferences. None. We all have them. But for gosh sake, just create the booty call, the party event, the group or whatever. Place your preferences in your profile and on the event, group, or booty call description. Is a public debate as to the popularity of my physical features or your physical features really necessary? What is the REAL goal of even starting such a debate? Just make the group, create the party, state your personal preferences and interested folks will follow you and other folks will not feel belittled by a public debate about the merits of their "look." I think it is fantastic for us all to have as many different options available as possible. I LOVE variety! :) I just re-read this before I post. I hope the first part of it's taken in the goofy way that it's meant. :)