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Swinger Study Survey - - One of our members is a doctor and is doing a study on swingers. He asked if we could post the survey for our members to participate in. Here is the link:
[url=https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Al1HkUqHiyNOHJq5eyttaA_3d_3d]https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Al1HkUqHiyNOHJq5eyttaA_3d_3d[/url]
How did you get started? - - My hubby was interested in exploring his fantasy of being with 2 women in which I told him of my interest in having a 3some with 2 men. He started doing searches on the interent and came across some swingers sites and showed them to me. It took him so convincing to get me to agree to this, but I'm glad I decided to give it a shot...not entirely for the sexual experiences, but for the numerous friendships that we have made in the process!
XOXO
~~K~~
Ugly people and swinging - - Hey NOW!!! I resemble that UGLY remark!
Donky what am I?
Really big?
No.
Really really big?
No, no.
Green?
No I'm an Ogar! You know grab your pitch folks,
and run!
Maybe those who are looking for *Ken and Barbie* need to be more careful and ask for pictures before meeting other people!
Ugly people have feelings too, and they can be hurt and often are by words.
There are a few select swingers clubs I dont like to attend because they think they are the *Beautiful People*, or they are very cliquish...
To me, a BAD or STUCKUP attitude is a bigger turn off than those who might not completely meet my standards in the looks department.
The second biggest turn off for me can be the first words out of someones mouth.
Iron
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - We have a 2011 BMW X5; 2009 Jaguar XF; 2005 Mercedes SLK 350; & 2000 Infiniti QX4. We still need to break in the newer three. The SLK is tricky, a top down event!
Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - ______________________________________________________________________________
** "Swinging" is just a different word for "swapping" and you can't swap if you bring nothing to the table. **
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NOT. Swinging is absolutely NOT about simply swapping. DON JUAN was absoltely correct. The women are NOT commodities to be traded amongst the men in the clubs and at the parties, but many of you devalue yourselves by assuming that submissive role.
Swinging is about choice. Thats is why the term "lifestyle" was coined in the early 80's; it's a way of life. If a single man is not to be considered a "real" swinger, then single women should not be considered "real" swingers either. What more does a single woman have to bring to the table than a single man? Do you think that these women do not represent the same set of issues that the men do?
The clubs, the parties, the events...these activities are driven by the WOMEN who particpate. The clubs will allow single women in for next to nothing for a couple of good reasons. The first of which is obvios; without a room full of hot women dressed in almost nothing, you would have a room full of nt so hot men, all standing around waiting for the woen to arrive. It would be like a middle school dance. Or a gay club full of str8 men. The second reason is even more simple. They attract MEN who spend MONEY. Single MEN and married MEN alike. The lifestyle is financed by MEN.
MEN who are willing to pay TOP dollar for the chance to meet with couples in the club. And let's face it, the guys who can afford to go on a regular basis are really the ones (if you are interested in single men anyway) that you would want to meet with, unlike a towel shark from the local adult arcade.
MEN who accompany their wives to the club to meet with other couples for the evening. These married men often spend (on average) $200 to $300 in a single night.
WOMEN are the EYE CANDY that keeps the party going. MEN do not want to go to a party that is full of other MEN, but they want to see EYE CANDY. So they are willing to pay to do it.
Mrs. Luvbugs! is a bartender, and a good one at that. She makes more part time than most degreed professionals (including me! humph!) do working full time. Why? She is very attractive. She is outgoing. She knows her stuff. She understands that SEX SELLS, and that her clients are there to see HER as much as drink a jack and coke. I have seen men sit at her bar, stare at her all night, run up a $100 tab, and leave her $30. Thats average...do that 20 to 30 times a night and what do you get? All for the privelege of being served by HER. I wouldnt do it, even if I were single. But then, I dont have to either, so who knows? THEY constitute the LION SHARE of her business, and her livelyhood.
The lifestyle is not different. We need these guys at the clubs. We need them to pay for memberships on our websites. They too are the oil that lubes the machine.
Sorry, but thats how it is.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
;)
Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - This is a subject I often ask people about.
Swingers differ from others because of the sex. If you are looking for "friends" goto a club, join a gym, or goto a group that says FRIENDS. If you are interested in nudity, flirting, swap dating, dancing, etc there are groups for that. SWINGING/SWAPPING is a sport that specifically says "I am looking for people that are not afraid of unbridled sex with not ties" or "We embrace our sexual sides and trust our love enough that it does not intimidate me for him/her to explore"
This falls under the same curiosity as why so many couples are into single females and couples only. is there a trust issue with her having sex with another guy?
Lifestyle vacations - Best place for a lifestyle vacation? - We have only been on one. We went on the Bliss swingers cruise in March and it will be real hard to take any other type of cruise again unless we are with family. It was clean and classy. Clothing optional on the pool deck and a ton of activities. We had an absolute blast.
Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - We tell anyone who is a late night friend, ie: serious friend, vanilla or not that we have an alternative lifestyle. It has made things so much easier. Our vanilla friends are closer. We make it very clear that we don't have any interest in sex with them for concerns about ruining what is a already a good relationship. I am not talking, work vanillas, they don't need to know. I am talking about people with whom we go dancing or bar hopping. Why lie about who you really are? The whole reason for jumping the hurdle that is the "lifestyle" is to be free with who you really are. Then you are supposed to hide it with people who are supposed to really care about you? Nope.
Because of this, it is really cute when we throw a party or get together. The vanillas spend the whole time excitedly trying to guess who the swingers are. Most of the time it doesn't take much to guess. This reminds me of what got us started on this course. We threw a mostly vanilla roller skating party with some vanilla friends. They invited a whole bunch of people and we invited a whole bunch of people. We invited 3 couples who were swingers who did not know or probably didn't care to hide what they were. The vanilla couple invited once swinger couple totally unaware that they were swingers. We got very outed that night. lol It went really well so it carried over as a "good idea".
Piper
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Like almost every other women who responded, i love DP as well. As soon as you find the right people the walls can start coming down lol
Professionals - - Some of our best friends work in retail and construction trades. Some are "professionals." But it IS relevant to how we interract and what everyone's expectations and comfort levels are.
If we were construction workers or farmers (for example), we wouldn't give a rat's ass who knew we were swingers. But our livelihoods could and would be dramatically impacted if it became common knowledge that we are swingers. This means a few things are done differently than they would be otherwise:
1. No public face pics.
2. No public names or detailed descriptions.
3. "You show us yours...we'll show you ours" policy with locals.
4. 99.9% "no locals" play policy.
5. When we do entertain locally, it must be discreet. If we go to a public place, there is no cross-couple PDA.
If it were not for our status in the community as "professionals" being a matter of eating and living indoors for us, we wouldn' have ANY of these guidelines. We know couples who have met couples publicly who are NOT "professionals" who simply could not respect their boundaries and risked their reputations (thus livelihoods) with inappropriate behavior even after being asked not to. It freaking happens! And it is one of the gravest forms of disrespect/disregard for someone to do this. You think I'm gonna walk into the convenience store where your wife works and stick my tongue down her throat in front of her boss? NOT! And it's the same thing for us when couples disrespect our discretion boundaries. It could force us into bankruptcy.
If you have a problem with that and think we're snobs because of it, screw you! Please don't contact us. :@
Rather than say all that in a profile, we tend to just play nice and say "we're an attractive professional couple..." ;)
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