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How Old Is Old - - hey blueeyes, from our perspective at least, we think you are probably right and probably wrong at the same time!!! . . . you are right about being in the minority relative to the kind words offered by most in this post, but we really believe you are also part of the vast majority of swingers who use age as a primary basis for discrimination . . . kind of a strong opinion we suppose, except that we can see at least 4 different ways anyone can pretty easily check for age discrimination providing some basis for that opinion . . . BUT, before we go into all of that, please understand that we realize that everyone is entitled to discriminate in any way they see fit . . . in fact, discrimination is not just ok, it is absolutely necessary!!! . . . you see, no one has enough time to sample from every cup (sigh!!!), so everyone has to establish discriminating criteria . . . and, for sure, we're NOT feelin' sorry for ourselves; we realize it's just part of the deal . . . there is one more thing to mention before listing ways to check for age discrimination: we think there is a pretty easy and logical answer for the OP . . . those tired of reading already, can skip to the bottom and get that opinion . . . however, we kinda hope peeps continue reading 'cause, sooner or later, age is an issue everyone will face . . . so, how does one check for age discrimination??? . . . try this: pick any population center (like slc) . . . open a bunch of profiles in that population from different age groups (say, 30's, 40's, 50's, and beyond) . . . record the number of times each profile was "recently viewed" (ya know, that little statistic conveniently provided by swingular) . . . then, simply compare the numbers for the different age groups . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see profile interest decreases with age . . . if you don't want to do the math, just talk with folks of all ages and ask them what they see . . . i know many (most???) complain like crazy about email (but somehow, everyone seems ok with tweeting, texting, facebooking, etc - - - hmmm???) . . . and, shit, there is always face-to-face (omg!!!) . . . so anywho, find an acceptable way to communicate, just ask, and keep track of what people say . . . we've done that to some extent, without any surprises . . . (although this method takes a bit more time, it has the added benefit of allowing you to connect with others) . . . another way to look for age discrimination centers on visiting other swing sites . . . we won't mention those competitors, 'cause we don't want to upset swingular management . . . but, hey, most all of us know where to look anyhow . . . in our experience, virtually all other sites list age preferences inside each profile . . . so, open a bunch of 'em and note age preferences . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see that there is almost no interest in those beyond 55 . . . it's almost like a cliff, and that somehow, sex, sensuality, desirability, etc, have an expiration date . . . we would like to think that it really depends on the individuals involved . . . and finally, there is an acid test: simply stick around the lifestyle . . . sooner or later, you will have a personal verification of the age discrimination issue . . . btw, we hope you do stick around, and we hope you have a great time doing it . . . so, how old is too old??? . . . we simply believe you are too old when finding suitable partners becomes too hard . . . what is "too hard" and who is "suitable" will vary for everyone, so the chronological marker for every swinger will be a bit different . . . but, the bottom line is the same: you are too old when this business gets too hard . . . btw, we certainly hope our time doesn't come too soon!!! . . . cheers!!! . . .

bi mmf - I want a bi mmf - [quote=DFW_EDITOR]You'd be surprised how many couples who list as straight would be up for something like this, at least to some degree. Believe me.[/quote] yeah I am very surprised! I am on a swingers site right?

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on: Jan 8, 2008 - 4:33 pm I have a question for those of you that allow single females and not single males. You could use the they "bring nothing to the table" argument as well. After all, many of them don't want to play with the male half. =D= Well, here is our take on it. BTW, we don't play with single anythings. If we know you well enough and say one of you is going thru our state, we don't mind playing with you as a single provided we know your other half won't mind. Played with a single girl who turned out to be in a possessive relationship. Ditch the bitch was the operation that followed. Anyways, with a single girl, lets say she only wants to play with the lady. Guys are fine with it since they can watch 2 girls go at it.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYBODY - I WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE BUT FUN HOLIDAY WEEKEND - I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY HAPPY THANKS GIVING . AND I WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE BUT FUN THANKSGIVING WEEKEND . WE WILL BE AT PLEASURE PALACE . WCCC IS GOING TO BE IN THE HOUSE FOR SAT NIGHTS COWBOY PARTY . THEY ARE TRYING TO GET SOME CARE PKG STUFF TO SEND OVER TO THE TROOPS . ANYTHING FROM TOOTHBRUSHES TO MOUTHWASH MINTS, GUM, BABY WIPES . ANYTHING THAT U CAN THINK OF LIKE THAT . IF U CAN PLEASE GO TO THE DOLLAR STORE AND BUY A FEW THINGS AND GIVE THEM TO THE WCCC OWNERS LADY &L-M-T SAT NIGHT AT PLEASURE PALACE . ANYONE THAT HELPS BRING STUFF IN FOR THE TROOPS CAN GO TO WWW.SWINGERSOFAMERICA.COM AND TAKE $1.00 OFF ANYTHING IAM SELLING ON THE AUCTION PART . HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROM SWINGERS OF AMERICA.COM &FREAKY KITTY & WILD DOG

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - YES WE CAN ! there is ways males and females may swing and thay will not be in sin I WILL BE BACK TO EXPLAIN......ok, I am back and will define the issue as much as i can and realy want to see your knowledge and views, so first let me say some major history that all people in the world know and should know Especially all people liveing in The United States Of America our beloved country witch its finding fathers inscribed in every coin and dollar " IN GOD WE TRUST " , I will start with the Presidential Recognition of Ancient code of Ethics House Joint Resolution 104, public Law 102-14 That reads : President George Bush signed an historic resolution of both congressional Houses , Recognizing The Noachide Laws as the " bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization " He urged the U.S. to take lead in " Returning The world to the Ethical Values contained in the seven Noahide Laws " . so we the people know what is right and wrong ,we the swingers want to know what we may or may not , YES INDEED we most of us in swinging are not stupid and fear God's award and punshment and this is the point of this thread i am asking all who fallow a religion what does your religion permit in swinging and is not called SIN for example , such as all singles may swing and it is not a SIN all males can fuck up any female including your wifey provided your are not fucking a wifey married according to your religion or soft swap laws pent. laws the diff. laws that apply only to males or only females , there are so many diff. laws lets talk about it and sort it out , we all know the basic laws of Noachide and i found most swingers go by it , some had said to me 'with you or in this case or this couple we can go only soft swap' it was amazing to me to hear this from a swinger... let me put it this way" we swingers are Religius waste up on top of the belt... but very liberal waste or belt down" i would like to add to the people who claim "atheism" you people are Equivalent to cannibals if you are not afraid of god you can kill ,steal , rape, do anything a big animal does to a small one or as a big fish does to a small fish and that is scary you are willing to murder if you won't get caught !!! i would not play or even be with you behind closed doors......NOTE to readers all postings after i came back to define this issue starts after page 3 please reply to the "sex laws " of your religion only we are not here to debate or dispute any religion thanks;) ;)

Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - Just because you fall down on your bicycle doesn't mean you quit riding it :-) -D-

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - K is an Aries B is a Gemini. Gemini's do it better. And we have the ability to lead double lives! ;) ;) ;)

wanting to play - 3 some or more? - [quote=EVILDOERS]It's your zip code. Everyone knows there are no swingers in Rigby. The hotbed of swinging in Southeast Idaho is Rexburg and St. Anthony...and possibly the greater Malad/Preston metro area. If it were me I'd put a personals ad in the BYU-Idaho student paper or the jobs board in the student resources center. Something along the lines of "Hot sexy couple seeks young nasty co-ed as live in love slave and sex toy. References required. Please sext a naked pic and a list of your fav postions and kinks to TATTOOCOUPLE11."[/quote] I would love to see this add in a BYU rag!

KSL Sucks - 3 posted comments deleted by editors of forums - Seems to me that they were expected to be open and accepting of this lifestyle choice. Yet, you'd be utterly amazed at the number of "swingers" who proclaim that they are open-minded, and yet attack the lifestyle choices of others in this very lifestyle... Just read the forums. You expected KSL's viewers to be any different?

A Swinger's Day at Disneyland - Saturday, January 27th - - Unofficial Swinger's Day at Disneyland Saturday, January 27th 2007 We invite you and many of your "close" friends for a "Swingers" Day at Disneyland. park hours - 9:00am - 11:00pm Cum when you desire... depart when you feel the "need" Dinner - Storytellers Cafe - 6:45pm Located in The Grand Californian across from the pool. *NOTE*This is NOT a restaurant take over. Seating is open to the public,individual and on a first come first serve basis.. if you show up as a party of two.. you will be seated as a party of two.. party of four,seated as a party of four.. Please let us know if you would like to join us for dinner and we will add you to our priority seating reservation. RSVP for dinner to us by Monday, January 22nd. We will be heading to dinner at 6:30pm. You are responsible for your own portion of the food bill and gratuity. Please come prepared. ****This is NOT a take over event. Each person is responsible for their own admission, lodging and food bills. Keep in mind that the parks are open to the general public and there will be people of all ages present. Check Costco, Military and Educators for discount tickets. Disneyland for their So Cal - discount rates. Show us your as naughty as we are... wear BLACK or passionate PINKS.