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Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=BMSHELL]I should probably add that if you didn't get tickets and you'd still like to attend, let me know and I can put you on the waitlist in case someone else cancels... (which, given how many people there are coming, is likely that a few spots will open up). Sorry for the thread-hijack Looking4Fun.... Back to the topic! Who wants to hang out with M&T? They're HOT! (Can vouch!) [/quote] Who are M&T? I also have to say Bshell, you do a great job of promoting without being pushy. I always admired that about you two. You seem very authentic and kind. We like that!

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Yes, we are definitely interested. We have been in this area for a few months. We left our other group in Texas. We are also looking for a good group to join here.

Lifestyle oriented documentaries? - - Secret Lives of Swingers was a documentary on Prime, I believe. It shows the good and some potential problems that can occur.

At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - I really don't think it makes that big a difference. What ever you are comfortable with is what you should do. Me personally, I let the people I work with that we are swingers, after they had guessed. Didn't see any reason to lie to them. Hell I was hoping to get in the pants of a couple of them. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.

Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - [quote=SIREROS]I find puzzling the judgment of others by those that seem so adept at mental contorsions as some of these people have clearly perfected. [/quote] There are cult books out there that show how and why any human can get stuck in these logic loops, even if they weren't raised in the church they can get stuck in them. And its especially hard if it's something you were born into, your biological urges screaming at you to disobey it. And the fact is the LDS church has given so many different commandments over the years that it is very hard to follow them all. 1) no pool tables 2) no playing cards 3) no rated r movies 4) may wear only 2 total earrings, but they can be 2 pearl. 5) only get a tattoo if you are polynesian and your cultural heritage commands you to get one 6) to be in a bishopric or higher, the only facial hair permitted is a neatly trimmed mustache above the lips only. May not go below the corners of the mouth. 7) girls have to wear pantyhose to church, naked legs are not allowed (bless that 70 - love pantyose) You should really look into cult dynamics to understand how the human brain locks you into staying in a cult, especially if you were born & raised, and every family member is in it, and how it can happen to anyone of any intelligence level. And being in swinging might be a good way to help them learn to be more open in their respect for others. I know several swingers who got out of he LDS chuch by swinging.

What's the universal swinger signal? - How can you spot a swinger?? - [quote=CARRIERMAN]...How can you tell if someone is a Swinger? "If you look over in the other bed, and see a man fucking your wife, while you're fucking his, there's a pretty good chance they're Swingers."[/quote] Well, yeah, or your a vanilla straight guy that REALLY needs to cut back on the drinkin! :) [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984] As well as the purple tellytubby with the triangle on his head that carried the red purse. Apparently Spongebob and Patrick along with Burt & Ernie are ALSO gay lovers. Go figure. hahaha.[/quote] OMG, did you just HAVE to go and bring back memories of TellyTubbies?? :) I abso-freakin-lutely hated them things -- nothing to do with their color, just their general hugely irritating nature. And one of my kids just loved to watch them. If I'd-a had a nuclear warhead and specific coordinates for where they filmed that show......BAAMMM.....3rd world war! Ooops....I'm off topic again....sorry.....I tend to do that. It's Kitty's fault. ;)

Reject Affair Match - Cheaters are not swingers - My question is this... If their ad is on the Swingular Site, is the Swingular ad on their site, if so how many more fakes, cheaters, etc. will this bring to Swingular? Mr Jenn.

Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - I wouldnt say the dynamics of our friendships changes so we arent interested in swinging any longer with friends we have made, maybe just we go through stages where we dont want to share each other for awhile, or we dont feel as playful as we do other times. Like some of you, I am sure, life just gets busy and there are better things to do and worry about. We have had friends in this lifestyle that we have had for quite sometime and we havent lost interest in them in that sexual way at all......sometimes we just like to hang out with them and call it good. We think it is nice to have friends that we can play around with when everyone is in the mood for it, but that we can all just hang out without the pressure lerking behind that you need to play at the end of the night......that isnt what we want out of this.

Secret facebook group for SLC? - - We recently joined a secret FB group for swingers with lots of super nice and sexy people. However it appears that most members, at least the active ones, are in Ogden which is bit far for us. Are there any secret FB groups for swingers for SLC?

I Have A Question - Poly vs. Open - We have friends in both of those communities and dip in and out of both but don't actually consider either what we have or want. Simply: Swinging is generally, ironically, too casual for us while also having way too many cultural rules (but we fucking love your parties), We also find that while we have fun with and enjoy the company of a lot of swingers, most are culturally pretty different from us. Polyamory, as people play it, is typically far too intense for us and that community also has a lot of cultural strictures and high expectations (but we've had great parties there, too, and have made really close friends, even though we're not into Star Wars 😜). So we look for genuine friends, because that's how it started and that's how it's always been with us. We're as likely to go to coffee than get naked. And our lives are crazy busy, so we don't have a lot of time to give. But we each go out with someone probably once a week. That said, it's not necessarily the same person and actually getting together for a night out, rather than coffee or lunch, probably only happens twice a month each at most. Once a month is more common. We don't really have rules. That's kind of antithetical to how our relationship works in general. Instead, we spend focused time with each other. We go to coffee together once a week. We go to lunch together once a week. And we go out together once a week. We plan that on Saturday over coffee or ok a run. We also talk constantly. We've always been completely open with each other. Having a mutually wanted and understood open relationship makes transparency easy for us. We also like to inevitably introduce anyone were seeing regularly to each other. We also don't pry at all but like to be sure the other person's spouse or primary partner is good and that they're relationship is healthy. It sounds a lot like what people call polyamory except that it stays casual. For that reason, the other people need to realize that's all it will ever be. The flip side to that is making sure we only get involved with grounded and reliable people. We've been doing it long enough that we both have a whole set of friends we might go out with on and off. For us, regardless of their jobs, they're often artistic, musical, literary, dancers, etc..