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Alex - New to the lifestyle looking for my first encounter into couples and single females - Utahldscouple / openmarriage -
My mistake. I read two different responses and mistakenly attributed them both to openmarriage! The other was "don’t understand how single guys can be swingers". My bad.
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - Hell don't know how to do the Quote massage LOL But yeah what LAPUA said
2 Year Anniversary Party for Swingers in Knoxville,Tn. - BYOB, On-premise Swingers Party - Destiny's 2 Year Anniversary Party
Saturday night, March 11th
8pm until ???
Quality Inn Motel
Callahan Road Exit #110
2nd Floor Meeting rooms (above Lobby)
BYOB, On-premise, with decorations throughout the dancing, eating, and seating area. Private play areas and open play areas are sectioned off for your fun and games. We have several games to play, if you like strip poker, strip bingo, or toss the rings around the 3' inflated cock, and we have two other games people like to play also, called "pin the cock on the stud, and pin the boobs on the gal". Guarantee you'll enjoy yourself and have fun while you're there. Rules and guidelines are posted on the web sites for more information.
http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocials/index.html
http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinytw39/index.html
There is a door donation to attend. Hope to see you there!!!
Take Care, Play Safe, and Enjoy Life......Tammy
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - We tried different ages. The young ones just don't have a clue, too immature and scared. A lot of the older ones have erection difficulties. People do tend to pick those near their own age. The biggest factor is how picky the women are, including my own wife. As a couple we have been turned down a lot because my hair is grey and thinning causing me to look older. My wife doesn't like large over weight guys or guys with short cocks, or those who shave their heads. I don't think its age that is a factor so much as overall looks. If the attraction isn't there it doesn't matter what your age is.
We like the 40 to 55 range.
STDs in the lifestyle - telling people they're no big deal - Hate to say it people, but if you are scared of STD's, this is probably the worst type of hobby, ativity you can have. Condoms or not the chance of contracting something still exists. Condoms break and the other juices flying around can circumvent a condom or other forms of protection. Especially HPV which is pretty common in sexually active people. It's not life-threatening but can be for women with the increased incidence of cervical cancer. It's like a lot of the other types of non life-threatening diseases, even if they aren't, who the hell wants to deal with something that you don't have to begin with? I mean even if there are treatments available, I'd rather not have to deal with something I contracted for the mere "Want" to fuck other people. See what I'm getting at? Like ThoughtGarden said, "abstinence" is the only way you can guarantee safety. So, again if you are worried, you might want to find another hobby, or just be extra safe and have a great time. It's what we've done and haven't had any problems so far. It's that one time though that could change a lot of peoples opinion on the lifestyle and safety. I do remember reading something that stated swingers for the most part are married, and believe it or not have an incredibly low rate of STD's because they keep the swinging on the inside with other safe, married couples. So, Single guys, sorry you are carriers of many bugs! LOL. Kidding. Screen them too and ask lots of questions. I think we can all have a great time. Find some great couples who you trust and swap until your hearts content.... That's all I got to say about that..
UtHot
Curious Question - - Welcome to NV Poohbear!! Living in Elko we have the luxury of being within driving distance to our friends in Salt Lake City AND in Reno. Reno does have 3 swingers clubs, tho they arent anything compared to the ones in Las Vegas and other areas. There are SEVERAL swingers groups in the Reno/Tahoe area as well as yahoo member groups there. We belong to a few of them....if you are interested let us know and ill send ya the links to the ones we belong.
I'm sure once you get settled you will love Reno as much as we love visiting it!! Best of Luck!!
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=PARTYINLV]Playhouselv allows single guys on Fridays only. Saturdays are couples and single females [/quote]Well if we are going to get technical they allow them on Thursday nights as well. But the statement was in general, single males can attend.
Crossville, tenn. - week in the mountains - We will be staying in crossville 9/26 to 10/3 looking meet some couples for play and fun.We are nudist and swingers and we love to partaaaay long and hard. If anyone out there is interested in having fun with us please hit us up.
Barbara & John
Jealousy - Coping tips for the beginning swinger - I've read the articles on the site about jealousy, but I am hoping that some of you more seasoned swingers can give me some advice. Remembering back to when you first started, were there any times that jealousy and hurt crept up, despite your willingness to let your partner play? How did you deal with this (obviously besides talking it through with your partner?) For me, I can logically work through it, and know how I should feel, especially given the fact that I've been on the other side of things for 4 years, but now having him play, it makes me feel insecure and a little hurt. Help :)
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