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Naughty Horoscope - - Both Scorpios (despite our STATED birthdates...yeah we're sneaky that way). Sounds like Ms. Evil and I should be pretty much fucking each other to death 24/7...oh wait. THAT'S why were such lame swingers. Nothing left in the tank for anyone else.[em]Emo_49[/em]

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - Don, I completely agree. I'm not suggesting "friends first" folks are wrong. I'm just explaining: 1. Why WE don't use that phrase...and folks often make offensive assumptions about us because we don't. 2. Why WE are always a bit uneasy about contacting couples who DO use that phrase. FYI, around where we live, we have this whole "lifestyle clique" who run around protesting WAY too much about how friends is all that matters and they aren't in it for the sex at all, and labeling anyone who disagrees with them as "bedpost notchers." Mostly though, the way you get in their crosshairs is by telling one of them "no thanks." So this is a bit of a sore subject for us...as we DID tell a few of them "no thanks" and we aren't about to lie and say we didn't become swingers for the sexual aspects. Duh! LOL

Has swinging changed? - - I've been trying to quantify the changes we're seeing but it's a little hard to pin down. For one thing, there seem to be quite a few people sticking their heads in and quickly retreating. Perhaps it's the ease of entry that allows "lookie Lous" to sort of check things out without really risking actually MEETING someone. LOL Another thing we've noticed is that there seem to be more people treating swinging as simply another way to hook up for NSA sex. I mean I know at it's core that's what swinging is but it's almost become a wham, bam, thank you ma'am culture rather than the sensuality of sharing your body with a caring generous lover. Foreplay almost seems to have become perfunctory (if it happens at all) and there's more of a "down and dirty by nine thirty" attitude than there used to be. It's almost a hit it and quit it or get in, get out, go home culture now. Many people just seem to be in such a hurry to fuck that they don't really want to take any time to get to know each other a little first. Maybe I'm seeing things but it just seems like it's changed a lot since we started swinging. I was talking to some people on another site and one guy postulated that the changes were due to the scene being so diluted by people with varied interests that there just aren't a lot of "pure" swingers anymore. I dunno, maybe I just need more coffee. [em]Emo_96[/em]

"Black Ring" or other Lifestyle insignia? - - We used to go to lifestyle "conventions" back in the day. A thousand or so couples taking over a hotel. Theme dances, seminars, an expo hall with anything and everything sexual. You were given wristbands when you registered to get into all the venues. It usually took about 4 or 5 hours for people (vanillas) at nearby hotels and such to hear about what was going on start looking for who was wearing those telltale wristbands. It would get so bad people (swingers) would just take them off or try to hide them under watches and jewelry. Can't imagine something like this wouldn't fairly quickly (especially with the internet) turn out the same or worse and for some reason not too many people seem to want to be identified as swingers when they're at the grocery store or out to eat with their families or in ANY public place. Imagine that![em]Emo_67[/em]

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - A Memorial Tribute To help the friends and family, to understand the call. That took your names from off lifes list, and place it a this Wall... You fought a war, unpopular, in Nam so far away. And now you've found the greatest peace, as we stand here and pray... Beyond the Wall we hope to find, the reason for it all. Why you with pride went far away, to answer duty's call... Perhaps the flag that others burn, became your symbol proud. Why you gave life, proclaim your love, of country, very loud... So rest in peace, my Warrior, my nurse and doctor too. And rest assured forever more, we'll all remember you... The Wall means much to everyone, these names on granite cast. To keep your memories alive, as long as time will last... So look upon the granite face, and touch the names with pride. For all their spirits linger there, beyond the Wall, inside... ~~This verse was placed in "The National Archives" on September 30, 1993.~~ ----------- They walk along the granite block, past names all etched in stone. Among so many others here, but feel so all alone... So many here to touch a soul, that passed so long ago. And tears now streak from off your cheek, emotions, have to show... There are so many people here, who wish the pain to end. Why not reach out a hand to them, to listen, be a friend... The Wall can bridge the largest gap, it made our nation one. We thank the nurses one and all, and every soldier, son... Whose names we see forever etched, upon the granite stone. Though painful make us realize, that we are not alone... The sacrifice, that you all made, that bring us to this shrine. Bring all those closer, left behind, perhaps the grand design... ------------------------ God Bless America!! Thank you to Men and Women that gave us the Freedoms we have! And Thank You to Those that continue to do so Today, Tomorrow and in the Future!! -------------

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Habits: Vanilla or Not? - How to tell the difference? - [quote=DANDDMONTREAL]We went to Habits last night because multiple people have mentioned that it's a place that Utah lifestylers like to frequent. As we expected, it was generally difficult to tell the difference between lifestylers and vanillas (though we did recognize a few people from various events). We have no interest in offending a vanilla by making undesired advances. Nor are we looking to flip vanillas. That's just not our thing. We're really only interested in meeting stable couples that have experience in the lifestyle. So the obvious question is, what tricks do people have for differentiating lifestylers from vanillas at Habits?[/quote] This has been asked here many times before... here's what it boiled down to: 1) You can't tell by looking. 2) If you really want to know, you'll have to ask them. 3) Despite the fact that maybe 5% to 10% of the people there are swingers on any given weekend, it's not a swinger club, so if you're trying to meet swingers, it's very inefficient. Sorry.. wish there was a better answer.

Why swingers are happier. - - Ya, what they said!

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We have not purchased black rings, We both get approached quite frequently I guess we just put off that vibe

Adult Vacation Recomendations - We need some help what to do or where to go! - [quote=WYSEXY]We went to a takeover in Vegas at the Rumor that was an absolute Blast...four full nights of Debauchery!!![/quote] That would be fun.. how often do they do those? Takeover is definitely the key... don't try to mix the swingers vacation with the vanilla's. =)