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Cruise - pricing - You guys are really bitching about paying $2000 for two people for a 7 day lifestyle takeover cruise? I heard Utah people were cheap but come on. Let's break that down per day... $285... per couple... per day... We've been many places that aren't nearly as nice as being on a cruise with 2100 swingers and paid a lot more than that for just hotel rooms. Throw in car rental and food and you're out even more. So what if you're paying $600 more than what they charge for a regular cruise... you don't have to worry about children and you're around people you can actually have fun with. Sounds like the extra money is worth it to me. And have you ever been on ANY vacation when you fly? Add in airfare, liquor, tips and gratuities as well. You're not getting those things free on most other vacations anyways. Did you go to SwingFest? The rooms there were $300 a night! So if you can't afford this cruise, don't knock the people who put it together, we've been waiting for something like this for a long time and they deserve to make a bit of money off this because I'm sure it wasn't easy. And you're probably the ones who bitch about there never being any events or parties for lifestylers, then when someone puts one together, you bitch about it because they make a dollar for their efforts. We'll be on the cruise and we'll be glad to see those who aren't cheap on there with us.

Why do most cpls in the age range of 25-40 get so hung up on ag - - we love meeting new friends in the life style . but we dont want to play with everybody we meet . we go to alot of parties and hang out with a lot of different levels and ages of swingers . we dont rule one out more then the other for any reason . do we going looking for bigger people ???? or older people ???? no . but we really dont go looking for anyone . we enjoy our friends and try to make new ones .and we look and see each person for who they are and how they act . i am looking for friends to hang out with . and then i PICK MY PLAYMATES OUT OF THAT GROUP . the ones i click with and feel turned on i will play as much as i want to . do i rush faster to go up and say hi to a younger and in shape couple . hell yes . but i will also pull the oldest person in the club up on the dance floor and have a blast !!! i enjoy hanging out with older swingers . but alot of people that have been in the life style for along time are more in a rush and looking for fun . i love the new bies best . they are new and fresh and so creative and more into teashing and flirting WHICH IS MY BIGGEST TURN ON . but i also love to flirt and just make people happy . last party i asked an older woman to be my parnter in a contest . at a huge club with about 400 people . she was very shy cause all the other girls where DANCER LOOK ALIKES ... ( I DONT LIKE THE BARBIE LOOK ALIKE TYPE ) PERFECT ISNT MY CUP OF TEA . but i was teasing this older woman and i got to her lift her skirt and let me spank her ass . and she was spanking mine . and then she had to do a dance by herself . and i gave her a hug and spanked her ass and told her to go shake that hot ass and make them all scream . she did her best and she had a blast . she told me thanks so much for making her feel so alive and wild . and that made me so turned on and happy . and i love hanging out with people who are creative and fun . i look at peoples pics and see what their style is .i read their profiles and see how much they open up and what they have to say . yes i do look on the outside a bit to be with someone . but i also judge them by them for the real them . and what they like and dont like . and how they treat others and each other . iam so turned on by a few older couple that we know . one couple we did some things that we have never done before cause they wanted it like that we love to get wild , and take pics and make movies . i love body paints . i am turned on by people who are into what we are . young or old .black or white , married or single . alot of people talk about all the popel that dont like them cause they are older or not in perfect shape . but i also dont play with the hard bodies and try to look and act all perfect .that is a huge turn off to me . the ladies that all go to the club and they all look alike . blonde hair , tats int eh same place s , same cute matching outfits ,same size tits . and they think thats all their is about them . i cant stand that shit , people ask me why am i hanging out with the older ones and not chasing the pole dancer . i like to see people for who they are . and see the bad with the good and still like it . and want it . some people turn u on and some dont . if u are at a place where most people dont then u are hanging out with the wrong crowd . always be around fun people that u click with . and sometimes things that are bothering people about themselves can show . or just be in your head that is the reason . there could be other reasons about u that someone isnt turned on by . we hang out with alot of people . but play with only a few good friends . and thats what we are looking for . and we wont play with anyone that is just look ing for a play mates . so the best advise i can think of is ... to find a cool fun group that u can have a blast with and find what u want and need and dont worry about the ones that u dont click with for whatever reason . no biggie . have fun with the ones that do like u . thats what matters . naguhty dreams freaky kitty

young or old - - we are young swingers and our problem is the older crowd doesnt seem to want us arround. I thought be young was a good thing. when we say older crowd so far any one over 25ish, I dont mean to offend anyone:d we have found quite a few couples over 35 that we find attractive, but everyone says somthing that sounds alot like "we like you but we think your too young", So how old is to young?

I Don't Care if You LIKE Me... Let's F**K! (???) - - Ok... We recently (accidentally) overheard a conversation between three "newbie" couples. Earlier, we had talked to them and during the conversation had briefly mentioned our personal ideas about "Friendships" vs. "Notches on the Bedpost". (We're Pro-Friendship). We explained that we have many friends in the Lifestyle that we have never played with - as (we believe) most Swingers do. (?) Anyway, during the course of the later (overheard) conversation we heard from two different participants the comment (and I quote), "I don't CARE if you LIKE me, Just F**k me and I don't care if I never see you again." At first, we were annoyed with this attitude. Then somewhat amused. Now we're just curious... about how many "Seasoned" Swingers have this "You don't have to like me - Just let me F**k you" attitude... and how exactly that works? (We figure that if we don't like someone, why in the world would we share ourselves THAT PERSONALLY with them?) HOWEVER, we realize that not everyone thinks like we do and that there are a lot of different attitudes and feelings about the Lifestyle... and we're really curious now! Please share YOUR TAKE on this? We're not looking for validation on our own Lifestyle Ideas and Values (we don't need it), but we DO have Inquiring Minds and we're interested... No Judgments... Just Pure, Simple Curiosity......

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I joined the United States Air Force by my own will. I joined after I thought long and hard about spending years of my life dedicated to something other than myself. I decided that I do love the freedoms that have and I am willing to make sure they stay that way. Noone decided this for me, I am not mindless, I am educated,and I am a member of mensa. Not every war has to be fought on American soil to have a pure purpose. DJQ, you have the ability to not only work and pay your bills, feed yourself, acquire material posessions(including the computer you make your posts on), and you have the right to your opinion. All of these things are possible because of a country, however flawed, that stands up for what it feels is right. I'm willing to bet that ANY number foreign nationals would love to trade places with you right now. When you put your own self needs away for a short moment and realize, like so many post before mine have said, there are families without fathers and mothers because they fought for something bigger than themselves, we, you and I, are not that important in the grand scheme of things. Young men and women, some as young as 18 years of age, are sleeping in tents, eating food from plastic bags, and waiting for the next mortar round to hit nearby, because they were asked too. Many of whom probably do not agree with their situation, but realize that they are their, giving of themselves for a greater good. These people deserve at the very least a soft thank you once a year. DJQ, you are intitled to your opinion, no one will force you to believe something else like the days of inquisition. But please, for all those who have given of themselves, past and current, have just a shred of decency and gratitude that you are able to live the life you have. I'm not telling you to believe the same way I do, opposing sides is part of what makes this country great, just dont take for granted the things that were given to you without expectation of repayment. I am PROUD to have served in the United States Air Force. I served dilligantly during desert storm in support of all the marines and soldiers who were on the ground, my brothers. I thank all of those who have given of themselves to make sure our country continues helping the needy, and protecting those who need it. I salute all of you, commissioned or not. Mr2

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - Phenyx, People/Swingers are all ages from 21 to 60+ and are l;ooking for many different things. Some look strictly for sex... others look for friends first some look for friends with benefits and some of the older couples are looking for one or two couples that are exclusive to each other and provide variety to their sex lives. Thes exclusive laisons are about variety and safe sex... I don't think that anyuone can make statements about anyone elses' preferences within the lifestyle... Just an observation...

Hanging out this weekend - Habits tonight?? - [quote=HERRIMANFUN][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=HERRIMANFUN][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=HERRIMANFUN]We enjoy it if there is a couple we are interested in they have sections that aren't so loud that you can talk. But yes it is loud. And we have run into lots of swingers there lots of times. But I hear that a lot I think most people don't talk to people or just walk up to a stranger(s) and say hi. But I the male half does a lot that's how you meet people and then once you chat a bit it comes out that they are swingers. Not a big fan of he meet and greets it's always the same people unfortunately. And that's great for some but we haven't really made a connection at any that we have been too, yet. [/quote] We have been to the meet and greets too and we don't go very often and have not been to one in ages. Maybe twice a year we hit one but when we do go we pretty much introduce ourselves to everybody and if we missed someone we didn't mean to. You do have to be proactive to be successful in meeting people or at least reactive in a positive fashion when someone interesting approaches you. We have been to Habits and ended up leaving with someone, but we had already had a bit of friendly back and forth somehow with the people we left with or it was someone we met previously and had at least chatted a bit. We think we have only been there maybe five times altogether. Well, maybe Mr. Delicious will put on a collared shirt just in case we head that way but for now we are thinking maybe the Green Pig sounds fun. [/quote] Well if you make it to Habits please come and say hello. [/quote] Sounds dandy. For a limited time Mr. Delicious is sporting a now two week old full beard to contrast his shaved head. Part of a guy thing going on with some of his friends. Getting his Viking on which like his Norse god last name came to him through his family's Dublin roots going back to Norway before attacking or we mean landing in Ireland and becoming truly Irish. Mrs. Delicious is tall and sexy and carries her self like the strong willed woman she is so we should not be hard to spot. It is always fun looking for and finding someone you have not really met.[/

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - HAHAHA Yeah, I wouldn't ever think it is a guarantee on any level. We always wonder when we see other women wearing them. But as you mention, it seems like A LOT of people wear them, so we would never approach someone based on that. :) Hopefully at some point someone does approach us based on how i'm dressed, etc. But in our experience it means more for our playtime and fun than anyone else :)

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - We are gonna have to make our way to Utah....Close to Vegas so we figure why not. If you swing while living in UT, you maybe gamble too and we may get lucky on a trip! Have some very cool friends from there! You guys ROCK!

Mexico! Come with us!!! :) - Trying to put together a group of Swingers to go to Mexico with us! - Oh come on...132 views on this and no one wants to come? What gives? It cost us only $1700 with airfare for BOTH of us and as a group would be even cheaper. Cum have fun ;)