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Help us understand double standard?? - - Ok all.... first dont flame us just a simple question. Why is there people in the swing lifestyle that dont swing both ways? Let me explain why are there so many swingers that only seek females? Isnt the purpose in swinging to trade partners? Why does only the female seek the pleasure? Is it just us that feels this way? Seems a double standard. Whats in it for him if you only seek pleasure for her? Seems selfish to us... sorry to rant and rave just need to vent:) hope we are not the only ones that feel this way

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - At the end she said this person experienced it over 5 years ago, so all of this was really Old News. She has since been remarried to a Vanilla. Basically this was all BS.

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote=BMSHELL][quote]why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?[/quote] So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF? Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female). Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand. This isn't that complex. [/quote] Yup. Tons more bi gals than bi guys. Probably 'cause, for just bunches of reasons, it's a lot more "acceptable" for a gal to like playing with gals than it is for guys to like playing with guys. And, as much as some of us see ourselves as rejecting society's "norms" and doing what we ourselves think is right, or acceptable, we still grew up in that society, had its standards pounded into us for years, and just can't truly get completely away from all of them. So more gals are likely to try it out and find out they like it. ~ Terry

DATE NIGHT AT THE DRIVE IN.... - does anyone ever still go to the drive in? - We went to a drive inn two weeks ago and it was fun, the only thing better would be a group of swingers there together, we could totally redefine the word carhop.

Do your friends and family know about your lifestyle? - - Who knows? My bro - It wasn't difficult, we mentioned to him that we were going to jackpot, Nevada and he wondered why we would go pretty far in Nevada for our rare vacation days. Anyways, somehow he put the two and two together - figured we did something. So while Angel and me was talking' to him, my bro was ranting about how morals are insane and that we aren't too uptight about it. I asked how so - "you guys are swingers, ain't you?" We admitted to it and in process, found out that he had a role in a porno as an boyfriend that helped his girlfriend to be wild, plus a bunch of other stuff. My boss - Yeah, we were joking around about our wife is hotter and whatnot. Anyways, this was before we were really into swinging. I remembered that angel wondered what it is like to do some bisexual stuff. he knew a girl that's really into doing that and it went from there. That's about it. Everyone else doesn't know. We're kinda new to this (5 months so far.)

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - I own a residential painting company, so if anybody needs Quality Service at a Fair Price, let me know. We have done work for our friends on Swingular, so our references are easy to check out.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Bright orange and glorious faded purple 1970 Pinto yeahh baby yeah!!! or not ;)

KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u

Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - [quote=TheAdventurousCouple][quote=Stokedtopoke]Castle valley! Did you hit the whole enchilada? We love to ride down there...bikes and each other ;)[/quote] We rode whole enchilada starting at Kokopelli, Mag 7, and Klondike.[/quote] That would be the 2/3 Enchilada from Kokopelli haha, but still one of the best rides around ! Glad they finally opened the town up.

tired of the B>S> - - The only chance we have of meeting fakes is if the couple at the club or party turns out to be transsexual dwarfs and were fooled by their elevator shoes making them look taller. We have been around this stuff a good while. Actually we have never tried to meet a couple on this website, we gave that approach to meeting long before this website came to be. (I know my ass doesn't look that old but it is trust me) Fakes have always plagued these boards, it was FAR WORSE when you didn't have the verification systems in place and while these are good they are still not a guantaree you are dealing with the real deal. The now infamous "Christylynn" was certified as a "real couple" and technically they were a "real couple" just not what you had planned on. You can e-mail someone back & forth till your fingers bleed but your will not truly know what's behind door number two until they walk through the door. The best way to try and eliminate fakes and flakes is obviously to meet them in person. The only way to hope to be successful is NOT to plan an evening out with ONE COUPLE. We are fortunate enough to have a variety of swingers clubs and organized lifestyle parties in our area to use as a place to meet where we can not only see the couple we can SEE the couples interaction. (This is the part that helps you avoid the flakes) This works great for people like the original poster who lives in West Palm Beach Florida and this is what I recommend. For those who live in Alta, Utah (Pop.304) this approach is not so good. You fine folks in Alta will probably have to do a little more on-line work to round up some party people. (Just start with real seal at MINIMUM and work it from there...good luck.