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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]My previous comment was in no way intended to say that soldiers are immoral. We need them and they provide a courageous service for all of us. Just to say that those who seem extreme (the gang banger) may be acting in a way we can understand and possibly relate to.[/quote] So what you are sayting is that 9-11 was really a moral act and Iraq was simply a moral responce to that act?

Info for Noobs - - Bored at work today so I thought I would share some thoughts, since I know you have all been waiting for me to say something more. Don't deny it. :) I figured I would share some insights for noobs or just anyone else who will connect with our experiences. I already posted the 101 of what I thought was important, so this will be less rules and more insight. We seem to meet a lot of people who are just beginning and they always have the same questions. So.... The first thing to realize is that swingers are just like everyone else, just kinkier. They don't all fuck sheep (some do) or masterbate in public ( I do), but for the most part are just regular citizens who happen to like exciting sexual adventures. For the most part people are not very pushy, and if they are, you can quickly diffuse them just by being direct and telling them where you stand, or lie, or bend over. :) If they don't, probably a creepy couple who you don't want to see anyway. Most of the house parties we have been to are fairly mellow. Apart from the nakedness there doesn't seem to be a lot of random acts of sex happening all over the place. So don't be afraid to go to the parties, but ask before you go what the party is like. Nobody will rape you unless you like that sort of thing. We were so nervous during our first party that we sat in the car drinking until some people we knew walked us in. By the end of the night, I was the only one in my underwear. Awkward. Not really. There isn't a magical solution to meeting people. You have to make contact, talk to them and eventually meet, hopefully in an environment where you have a quick route of escape if needed. We used to invite new couples to our house for a hot tub night but quickly realized if there was no attraction for us, it was often times hard to politely get them to leave. So coffee, drinks something simple is best. We have met some of our greatest friends in the LS and are sure to meet more. The people tend to be open minded, friendly, educated and fun to be around. So even if you don't intend on playing with someone you might keep the option open for a lasting friendship, though some on the site are definitely NOT looking for that. You can figure that out pretty quickly. The Sinful parties are a great, no pressure way to meet people. Shout out to J & A (and M, I never forget M). :) The Orchard parties tend to get a little more rambunctious, but only upstairs, at least at the venue by Brewvies. So it is also a good place to go if you want to just chill, or if you want to be a little more daring and see sex or have sex. We haven't been to as many manor parties, but they are well done and seem casual as well. Don't think we have ever seen any sexual acts and Manor. Habits is definitely turning out to be a swinger's hangout. Saturdays seem to be the biggest turnout for the LS. Can be some creepers there but for the most part is fun and entertaining. Not our favorite but will do in a pinch. Our name is SameRoomOnly because when we started we were only having sex with each other, in front of others and figured we would never full swap. We learned quickly that rules are easily broken and that it is best to learn to communicate on the spot in any situation. We use hand gestures and do have a few code words if needed, though typically most people are very happy to hear open communication about what others in the situation want. We certainly do. If you don't want that ninth orgasm in a row, just tell me, I will back off. No hard feelings. Well, we have come a long way from SameRoomOnly. And here we are. Maybe a bit smarter, a lot kinkier and have a lot of fun experiences behind and ahead of us. I am raising my imaginary glass of bourbon to all of you we have met and to the good times. Cheers.

Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - Good question! Really haven't had this come up much, yet, quite like that, anyway, being relatively new to the lifestyle. But...have already encountered the Ohhh...we know some of the same people sort of thing" Even in the big city..it is amazing how often that happens. For me..I can understand why this would make some swingers nervous...never really knowing what you might say to one of their friends about "your " new friend. When I have learned about common connections such as this....my choice has been to not mention them again...and ESPECIALLY not to the ones that know both of us. I learned a long time ago, that I need to be honest....BUT....I DON'T have to tell everything I know...LOL

C- A - Any swingers clubs around Salt lake? - Redemption, in Herriman, is the only new place that I know of.

Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - we meet most on the net... but our friends have a monthly meet and greet party... about 300 to 400 show up its a great way to meet new friends. For those who are interested the link is http://www.secretdesires.org/

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - I think over 10 years in the lifestyle qualifies the research. What you're refering to has a lot to being open minded and approach sex as a healthy activity. AGAIN - when you think of the lifestyle and the term "swinging" a single person doesn't fit the description as there is no swapping on both sides.

How often do you think this happens - - In HIS opinion, it is a lot to do with the fact that MANY single men are WAY to agressive...Our experience has been that we have met 2 single men that were ACTUALLY swingers, the rest were simply looking for an easy piece of ass...Boy were they mistaken... Sure, there is some insecurity, but that seems to be less than I initially thought...After reading many of Don's opinions on single men, I think that a lot of others are of the same thought...ALso...there is a lot of the men saying, "If she gets some, I get some" we have actually heard men say that before...We have also had men storm off because there wife was wanted and they were not....but thats a whole other ball of wax.... The topic at hand, they were NOT totally honest with each other...He IS insecure...if he admits to a little insecurity, he is VERY insecure...think about it T4, you're a man, would you tell on yourself on television? HELL NO...No man would...Unless there was HUGE sums of money involved....

WHY DO WE GET STOOD UP? - - It seems to us that this site spawns wannabees.We have NEVER met anyone from this site. We have been contacted by people as young as 19 years old who have said they are interested.OF COURSE THEY ARE NOT!!! Maybe they just want us to open our private pics for them. We are serious swingers.We have met some great people and been to a few great parties.We have never been stood up but maybe that's because we havent tried to meet any of the game players from this site.

Recons 6th annual backyard bash! - - Amazing, Amazing, Amazing! The party and the people. Enjoyed everything about it and you recon! Can not wait for the next Orchard party... Every swingers party should have a "PINK TACO" stand in the corner - you think of EVERYTHING. Oh and 801COUPLE4FUN my husband came home with nothing else on but a cute little white sweater and a smile - now I know why

Kama Sutra - How many seek the ultimate? - I'm curious as to how many swingers put aside the usual polite chat and routine seduction proceedures to seek out the ultimate pleasures. Are there many out there who are willing to put their conscious minds to rest for the time needed to pursue pure passion with the supreme desire to experience the ultimate all-consuming sensual experience? Share!