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Age differences - How do you handle it - We look to make some sort of a friendship with anyone we play with so we feel the best chance that would happen is if they were close to our ages but we have found many exceptions to that theory. We are just playing the odds that a connection is most commonly found with someone of similar ages. The reason for this thread was because of conversation we were involved in at a party recently that we attended. People of all ages were there. I was sitting with a few older ladies, who I must say were very attractive, but then they started talking about all of their ailments and it almost makes me afraid that I might accidently hurt them if we played. I want to provide pleasure, not pain. Also a few were saying they went to a big party and it was mostly younger couples who were dirty dancing and flirting but not really playing and they felt the younger swingers are not as sexual as the older people are. One rationalized it by saying that maybe the fear of pregnancy is the issue. We try to be ourselves at all times and if we find common interests with a couple younger or older then us, great. Since we are somewhere in the middle we can go higher or lower then our ages. We would go higher then our ages first because of the experience and maturity factors hoping their experience will provide us some fun and share their knowledge with us. We wonder what those at either end of the spectrum think and what is their biggest concerns. Great input so far from everyone so thank you for that. Joe and Lori

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - If my profile interests you, I am in

Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - [quote=EVILDOERS]It's very nice of you to bring ice cream to an event, FRIENDLY. There is always room for extra ice cream or maybe a casserole or a bundt cake.[/quote] I dunno, once they start to bring ice cream, I become a bit of a dessert snob. I want white chocolate raspberry truffle cheesecake next time.

Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

Lusting After the EVER ELUSIVE Male-with-Hallpass - The Great Swingular Mystery - [quote=FRIENDLYGENTLEMAN][quote=PALS4FUN] Guilty as charged! In our case though, it's a bit due to the fact that we're somewhat unusual here. I (the Mrs) sorta drive things and hubby is a minor participant. I'm sorta on a permanent hall pass and he's kinda along for the ride! [/quote] I'm going to have to disagree with you there, Pals. Somebody earlier also made a reply that said something along the lines of "this site is male-driven". In my experience, at least, this site is the opposite of male-driven. Sure, there are plenty of single guys and "single" guys, but most of the active couples on the site are primarily female-driven as far as I can tell. Now, that doesn't stop males with hall passes from being a rarity. Just because it's female driven doesn't mean that the male half is allowed to play on his own. Or that they are looking for additional guys. Even here, it seems that it is more acceptable for a female to admit to being bisexual or bi-curious than it is for the male. Take a look at the profiles of your friends; I would be willing to bet decent money that well over half of them have the male listed as straight and the female listed as something other than straight.[/quote]Hey, I'm gonna disagree right back at ya, buster! :) I think that the site and associated swingers are driven by the DEMAND for FEMALES but I think that the swinging and active searching for swing partners is mostly completed by the male half. For example, I'll bet that 90% of the folks posting here regularly are the male half. And yes, there's a huge volume of Bi-Females here, but certainly THAT is not exclusively female driven either. How many guys will raise their hands to participate if they're asked to watch two women going at it then be able to jump in the middle of 'em? A male fantasy. If the women were just interested in meeting other women there'd be female hall-passes getting used all over the place with other women, but there isn't because the husband wants to be involved and the women will generally acquiesce -- again, ultimately driven by the male desire rather than the females. But then, hell, I like weeners too much to ever be gay so whadda I know?! [em]Emo_12[/em] Maybe it all really is driven by women looking for other women and the men just get dragged along screaming and kicking! [em]Emo_60[/em]

real members? - - CYBER SWINGERS strike again! We had the same thing happen to us although we only drove 2 hrs this cpl must have exchanged 40 messages with us over a 3 month period they were so excited to meet us in person we showed they didn't! They were supposeably traveling to Florida on vacation we called them on the cell only got a voice mail and never heard from them again! We wish people would just be HONEST when we say we willbe someplace for a meeting we are there or we call before hand to say something has come up never leave a cpl wondering. its a fact of life in this lifestyle we simply try to make the best of it like that night we sat there enjoyed a drink and watched this beautiful blond sing and play the piano then we simply drove home and laughed and said "NEXT"! We have learned to not take the lifestyle too serious its ashame some people continue to play these petty mindgames but we know its a fact in this lifestyle. Ever want to visit North Florida look us up we WILL show up. Norm&Sharon

Looking for Swinger friendly hotels in Brevard Co. Fl - - Here are all of te sites that I could fit together from all over FL... Hope this helps. Name: AMORE SWINGERS CLUB Address: P.O. Box 2283 City, State: Ormond Beach, FL Distance: 449 miles Phone: 386-255-1600 Email: [email protected] Contact: Petra & Joe Website: Not Listed Description: PARTIES EVERY WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY & SATURDAY 7.00PM-3.00AM, FOR INVITED COUPLES & SELECT SINGLES. Name: The Lifestyle Ranch Address: 16571 SE 49St Rd City, State: Ocklawaha, FL Distance: 472 miles Phone: 352-625-8918 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/lifestylera... Description: 8 acre secluded Private ranch catering to lifestyle couples and single ladies! We are Free and intrested in friends and friendship only! Name: CharlieWoods Address: Just off I-4 City, State: Orange City, FL Distance: 474 miles Phone: (386) 775-2372 Email: N/A Contact: Charlie and Carolyn Website: Not Listed Description: On-premise for couples and singles. We have 6 acres to party on with dance floor, hot tub, pool and private playrooms. Name: Club Relate Address: PO Box 574584 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 500 miles Phone: 407-678-2540 Email: [email protected] Contact: Tom & Lynda Website: http://www.clubrelate.net Description: A masturbation swing club for couples and singles of both sexes, meeting on Saturdays. Twelve years of operation Name: RANCH 4 PLAY Address: Call City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 502 miles Phone: (352) 483-1988 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://ranch4play.com/ Description: RANCH 4 PLAY is situated on a 5 acre site in a peaceful, wooded site 30 minutes from Orlando Florida. As a guest of RANCH 4 PLAY, you will have access to the cleanest on-premise, private, swingers party in all of central Florida. Name: J.D. & Sandra's Address: P.O. Box 720249 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 509 miles Phone: 866-738-3950 Email: [email protected] Contact: J.D. & Sandra Website: http://www.jdnsandras.com Description: On premise club for couples and select singles every Saturday. Name: Florida Social Address: * City, State: Fort Walton Beach, FL Distance: 516 miles Phone: * Email: [email protected] Contact: Steve and Mandy Website: http://www.floridasocial.com Description: Premiere off-premise adult swingers club. We strive to provide adult couples in the swinging lifestyle a fun safe place to meet and get to know other like minded adult couples. Our socials are always exciting and we can't wait to meet you! Rating: (10=Best 1=Worst) 12 Ratings Clean Atmos. Cost Summary Website Avg. 7 7 6 7 You may only rate clubs within 350 miles of you. Name: The Partyhouse Address: 14051 Old Dade City Road City, State: Kathleen, FL Distance: 531 miles Phone: 863-853-7750 Email: [email protected] Contact: Anne Website: http://www.centralflpartyhouse.com Description: We party in a private home, with ample parking and privacy for couples and single males and females. We have monthly special events The parties are on friday and saturday evenings Name: The Bottom Line Address: 3090 Evans Avenue City, State: Fort Myers, FL Distance: 637 miles Phone: 239-337-7292 Email: n/a Contact: John Website: http://www.clubtbl.com Description: Club that meets every Friday night. Name: Deenies Hideaway Address: 5011 W. Hillsboro Blvd. City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 650 miles Phone: 954-428-3336 Email: [email protected] Contact: Deenie Website: http://deenieshideaway.com Description: Luxurious private on premise swingers retreat for over 20 years. We are open 365 days a year. We have gourmet buffet, volleyball, a pool talbe, indoor hot tub, swimming pool and cozy playrooms. Name: Club Hedonism Address: 1000 east sample road City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-783-4741 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://clubhedonism.com/ Description: South Florida's finest on premise club. wed -sat 8pm till 4am couples only sat. huge dance floor private rooms group rooms.Upscale and affordable Name: Club 3299 Address: n/a City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-815-3299 Email: [email protected] Contact: Jeff Website: n/a Description: Social club for those in the lifestyle. Name: Club Chic Address: 525 East Sample Road City, State: Pompano, FL Distance: 654 miles Phone: 954-781-8884 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.clubchic.com/ Description: Off premise club with DJ, buffet, BYOB. Open Saturdays Name: Trapeze Address: 3660 W. Commercial Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-730-8121 Email: [email protected] Contact: Alan or Dennis Website: http://www.trapezeclub.com Description: On premise club open Wed-Sun 8pm-5am. We offer a buffet. BYOB Name: Platos Repeat Address: 321 West Sunrise Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-523-9818 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.platos-repeat.com/ Description: Private on premise swing club open Wed-Sun. We have a four star buffet, made to oder breakfast on weekends, DJ and alcohol is BYOB. Rating: Name: Anakosha Address: 2338 Immokalee Road #146 City, State: Naples, FL Distance: 665 miles Phone: 941-436-2014 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.anakosha.org/ Description: Couples only parties for the purposes of education and exploration of human sexuality and love in the context of marriage and alternative relationships. Membership required.

Facebook group - - Seems like we read where there is a swingers Facebook group. Does anyone know if this true? If so, how do we find it?

Friend collectors or swingers - - We joined this site so we could meet couples that actually have sex with other couples. So far all we've gotten are requests to be friends and then not another word. The couples that are actually real are few and the single males are liars, and usually lame with small dicks. This site is a huge let down. We are a hot couple that actually plays. My wife is gorgeous with a vagina that is 100% gold yet we can't find people that can be reliable.

Bills Birthday Bash at Destiny's basement tonight 22nd - Swingers On-premise basement party - To anyone interested in attending a basement party tonight in Maryville, we're having a birthday bash for one of the members on here...two_out_for_fun...and we hope to see some familiar faces and even some new ones, to enjoy the night and meet some great people that are also members on here. Where: 1028 Williamson Chapel Road Maryville, Tenn., 37801 (you can google the address from yours for directions or call me) When: Saturday night 22nd 8pm until 1:30/2am Party Information: BYOB, On-premise, with no pressures or obligations http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocials/index.html