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Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

Single Males vs. Unicorns - this is ridiculous - This site is no different than any other swingers site. I'm afraid that you will find good and bad in all groups, be it single males, single females, or couples. There are those that give their perspective groups a bad name, but unfortunately, little can be done about it, as it can be hard to verify who is for real and what someone's intentions are, without knowing them in person. In my time in the lifestyle, I have observed...single males who were actually in relationships but looking for secret side action, single females, who seem to have a husband/bf who's looking to join...but she still lists as single, and couples who believe that simply because they bring someone along to a party...it gives them free range to do as they please. On the flip side, I have met some very nice people from all 3 groups as well. My point is...all 3 of these groups have their roles in the lifestyle, but until a foolproof way comes along of determining who's for real and who's not...we will all have to deal with the good and the bad. As others have mentioned though...if you are object to a particular group and don't want to hear anything from members of that group...block/ignore them. Just remember that you are throwing out the good along with the bad.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - ON a serious note ...... We are definitely seniors... OH and our pics are pretty recent... with in 2 years.... B is 54 and a body that could be on a 30 yr old and I am in my X0's and I don't think I look my age.. At the clubs that we go to, B is called the Energizer bunny because she dances all night long and is known for danciong on the table and strips to Zip... I n the other hand am not so lucky... but Have very little trouble with the ladies.... I have 2 girl friends on eless than 40 and another in her 40's. I'm not as good as I once was but...... I'm as good once as I ever was ...well not quite...but my dad used to say..." when you get too old to cut the mustard, you're never too old to lick the jar it came in and besides The ladies consider me a real gentleman, I've been told that I "kiss good" and I'm not in a hurry and respect the journey.... So it may be about attitude and humor and caring and how one presents one's self.We get hits on several sites still from people 40 and up ...so age doesn't seem to be a deterant.... but I can understand how it might be...Hope you have better luck from now on.... take care... PS... If more people put pics n with a smiling face on here they would probably get more hits.. A smile opens the viewer to the soul of the person in the pic... A frown or a blank face also open the soul but that opeing is not always something wanted..

Couples oasis or Red Roister - Which do you prefer - "...in advanced stages of their lives or have been ridden way too hard and put away wet on far too many occasions." You say that like it's a bad thing! All I know is that the last time we were at the Red Rooster (admittedly probably 10 years ago) we saw THE largest couple we've ever seen in a swing club (or possibly anywhere else!). By the time they got up the stairs (single file as the stairway is NOT ADA compliant) they were sweating SO hard and were SO out of breath that we made a break for it before they got their second wind and took their clothes off. But you know what, good for them for being comfortable in their own...uh, skin and wanting to get their freak on in front of a small group of geriatric swingers. We did, out of morbid curiosity, scan the obituaries the next day because if someone there that night didn't have a coronary event then surely someone was crushed to death. And yes I'm a BAD person for saying that even if it's due to imbibing a WHOLE Redd's Wicked Apple Ale all by myself, on an empty stomach. Yeah, you heard it here first. The 'Doers KNOW how to party on a Saturday night! [em]Emo_57[/em]

Christian Swingers - - By the most basic definition, being a Christian simply means you believe that Christ was the son of God. After that it's all doctrinal squabbling. And at that point all you need is positive outlook, and the general idea that being kind, tolerant, and honest are positive things we all should do, and you've got the makings for a perfect Christian swinger. As far as any such sect being widely accepted, the LDS Church is one of the largest, most famous in the world, and it just so happens that a significant number of people still refer to it as a cult, and think that Utah still has polygamy. Misconceptions abound in any faith-structure. And, at risk of beating a dead horse, (which is a vile and ineffective practice) a joint study by grad students at Princeton and Dartmouth found that 28% of interviewees didn't relate to, or only related a little to their Christian denomination. Now it was a sampling of the population, but given the number of Christians in America, 28% can translate into hundreds of thousands, to millions of Christians out there who don't relate well to their denomination, and can practice their own form of spirituality. But I wax verbose, and slightly British. God bless the Swingers. -V

911 THE REAL TRUTH - - sawit a while back and am thoroughly pissed about the entire thing you never know who to believe or trust. canada is looking better and better but didnt they outlaw swingers ?

Las Vegas looking for swingers info. - - We are looking for info on a hotel that accomodates swingers or any other info. that you want to share.;)

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [quote=BRATCAT70]We have Dish Network and have been unable to find either the series, SECRET SEX LIVES: SWINGERS, or the channel, Discovery Fit & Health. Can anybody help?[/quote] I DONT KNOW THE CHANNEL, (we have DirecTv) we used to have Dish so I DO KNOW that you can use, as long as you have a box you can use your remote and you search the show by name and select it. HOPE THAT HELPS,Jenny!!

South End - Is the secret milf game a faux? - So, after several months here's my results. Connecting through swingular mail after CLOSELY reading a couples profile does lead to results BUT only if after a few email exchanges, including a friend request, leads to an exchange of phone numbers. Success has been only through connecting with husband who screens for wife. Switching over to another email server like gmail at the request of the couple is a waste of time. Just and endless stream of BS. I presume the long string is not accessible by swingular, who knows. Also, couples (male half) has read my profile and connected directly. Same thing a quick exchange of phone numbers. Meet ups this way have all be positive with satisfaction all around. Lastly, I want to thank those couples who have replied back, even when the reply is "no you're not a fit" this is respectful and what I would expect from serious swingers. Cheers,

Younger LS meet-up? - - Sorry single guys, we really envisioned the group for couples/single women only. For interested 20s-30s couples/single women out there: there's a Swingular group called "Millennial Swingers" - apply to join and once there's quorum I'll set up a Kik :).