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On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - 'Church' Busted for Prostitution Takes Religious Freedom Too Far
Church Not What the Constitution Meant
By Isa-Lee Wolf
Takeaways
COMMENTARY | Sometimes you just have to give people credit for creativity. Phoenix police have busted a church called the Phoenix Goddess Temple, alleging that it was actually a front for prostitution.
According to CNN, authorities claim churchgoers received sexual services in exchange for "donations." Twenty men and women have been arrested in regard to the church's practices of so-called "neo-tantric" healing; police are still seeking 17 more individuals.
What makes this case so interesting is, if the allegations are true, the great lengths of planning undertaken to skirt the laws against prostitution. People tend to believe the First Amendment serves as a blanket protection of religious groups, shielding them from the general laws of the state when laws and beliefs are in conflict. Unfortunately for this group, that interpretation of freedom of religion does not always hold true.
Glenn Hudson, a club owner in Dallas with the same perspective, also tried to get creative, calling his alleged nightclub/drug den a "spiritual organization," reports CBS News Dallas/Fort Worth. After his bust for running an unlicensed dance club, he claimed it was actually a youth outreach program, getting the young people of Dallas engaged with their spirituality through dance. Meanwhile, four undercover visits by police yielded 15 separate drug buys.
But the Fenix/Darkside wasn't Hudson's only supposed religious group. He also owned a spiritual organization/swinger's club called The Playground, where people could allegedly watch pornography and have sex. The Playground garnered the city's attention for being housed in a building with a "certificate of occupancy for a church, mosque or synagogue." Dallas ordered both clubs permanently closed.
Such creativity in using freedom of religion to shield a group from law enforcement can have tragic results. In a much darker example, polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs sought the protection of freedom of religion to avoid consequences for his abuses of children . His lawyers argued before his trial and he now claims in his motion for a new trial that his "marriages" to children as young as 12 were protected by the Constitution, according to Reuters. Jeffs was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
Religion is addressed in the first clause of the Bill of Rights for good reason. The framers of the Constitution knew what harm religious tyranny caused, and how the beliefs of the minority could easily be trampled by the majority.
But trying to hide unsavory acts under the mantle of freedom of religion is an affront to all Americans, the religious and the non-religious. The religion clause is meant to protect that which is most personal, most fundamental: the individuality of a belief system. While arguments like those of the Phoenix Goddess Temple; The Playground; and, particularly, Warren Jeffs, wave the banner of religious freedom, the claims are hollow.
Worst of all, manipulation of the spirit of the religion clause is an abuse of the gift of a freedom once unknown in the world.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Age...hmmm.
I (Mr.) have a pretty wide range in age. I usually gravitate towards older rather than younger (yes, I'm attracted to older women rather than younger.)
As for Mrs. I know some of her fantasies, but I won't pretend to answer for her.
On a couples perspective, I have seen that couples tend to gravitate towards their own age range. Why? I don't know.
-K_T
If only you could tell in public who is and isnt in the LS - - [quote=fourplay][quote=DARINTRICIA]There are phone apps that can show when others are nearby. I use one for hunting with the people I hunt with. So someone just needs to develop an app.[/quote]
Super good idea![/quote]
Several apps like that HAVE been developed. One was actually offered to members of another swing site we're on. It failed miserably because people wouldn't, for various reasons, use it. We never used it personally. Some people apparently thought the potential for being outed as swingers was too great to risk using it. Another app was written by a friend of ours and it supposedly had some safeguards in it that he had designed but Apple wouldn't allow it in their app store...I guess because it's purpose was to help people swap spouses. \_(ツ)_/¯
Swingers Party Club - Sin City Resort - Aaaaagh. We wish we were down there to explore with you! Have fun and let us know how it goes.
Game----- Between My legs - Between My legs - The Right Stuff BML
Dudley Do Right BML
Let the Right One in BML
Do the Right Thing BML
Wrong is Right BML
The Kids are All Right BML (going too far?)
MR. Right BML
Up & Down BML
Upside Down BML
In & Out BML
Planes, Trains and Automobiles BML
FREE WILLY BML
The Gathering BML
and of course....
SWINGERS BML
Children's Book 🤣 - Tim and Kate are Swingers - https://sellout.woot.com/offers/reach-around-books-come-swing-with-us
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [url=http://kutv.com/news/local/thursday-at-10-the-dark-side-of-the-swing-scene]Here is the link for the story[/url]
Swingers on a Cruise - - We're taking a western Caribbean cruise the third week of march. Does anyone know of a forum where people post swinger activity on various cruises? We wouldn't mind meeting some folks for drinks and maybe more while on the cruise.
YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - Hi all U "cruzers" out there...!!! Are U ready to PARTY, we are... as usual. Looking forward to gettin with old friends & new "playmates"... we'll be at Caliente the weekend the ship leaves, so if your in the area, Saturday night is a "Bon Voyage" party at Caliente, Wanna Cum...!!!
Hugz,
Bob & Christa
Amusing Story about bad planning - Notice nobody asked the swinger\'s opinions - Swingers\' party at hotel angers soccer parents
\'We thought we were coming to Orlando, not the Las Vegas Strip\'
The Associated Press
Updated: 1:13 p.m. ET Jan. 3, 2006
ORLANDO, Fla. - Some teenage soccer players and their parents saw more sights than they wanted when they stayed at a hotel where about 200 swingers were having a New Year
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