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The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
50 shades - - Hire a boy scout for the night to teach you some knots. He could even earn a merit badge out of it. It's win win. And they say swingers don't do anything good for the community.
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - please add me.. Utahguy2
Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - I know it’s a long haul, but the masque in Paris is pretty amazing. Maybe even worth a trip :)
A Place In The Lifestyle - - Which club, and where?
Sadly this sounds a lot like Caliente, which isn't a swingers club but does host swinger parties pretty much every Saturday night. It also sounds like Miami Velvet, which is mostly mainstream people who just want to say they are swingers and pretend.
And no, I don't think most of them have any place at actual lifestyle clubs. While some do say up front they are not swingers a much larger portion will claim to be swingers so they can be seen as more of the "in crowd".
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Done
Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - [quote=Mrnmrsb]I would recommend playhousLV for people your age. Just my personal experience. We've been to all of the above mentioned ones in vegas and the crowd at those clubs were much older. PlayhouseLV has been amazing every time we've been. Always a good crowd of attractive younger people. Lots of play spaces and always a ton of people playing. We get lucky every time we go there. When we went to flirts all older people literally just hanging at the bar drinking. I kid u not. Not a single room was being utilized to play in. EXTREMELY BORING. Whispers we left 5 minutes after walking through the door because the crowd was much older. And not very attractive.[/quote]Agree with you on this! Flirts definitely depends on the night and if you went when it was newer it may have been that way. Still a little older crowd but when we went last time we had to wait to use a bed/room!
Finding Connections - Do the majority of swingers wait to be approached? - Curious as to the activity of swingers here. Do the majority of people wait to be approached by others or do the majority search for profiles and send emails to find a connection? If you get an email, do you reply if not interested or just ignore?
What do you do to connect?
RV Swingers? - - If our new business venture doesn't work out we may be living in a van, down by the river.. Does that count?
Bob
Rules to hooking up - - [quote=FUCKCHASTITY]Maybe we all ended up swingers because we don't play games. Sounds like everyone was as surprised by these revelations as we were. We are all here for the same thing, no need to dance around it.[/quote]
I for one, am grateful.... I'm too lazy to try translating code... It takes up time that would be better spent actually tasting new friends.
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