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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - It's unfortunate that you've had this happen to you, and apparently twice with the same couple, no less?
While unfortunate, it's also par for the course. Perhaps one of the most cliche and over-used phrases we see appear on profiles is "drama free", and we always take that with a grain of salt.
The truth is there is no such thing as 100% drama or issue-free couples.
Even if they insist on their drama-free status, we also realize that we are all human, and these things are bound to happen from time to time.
The key is not to find the ideal couple but to find the couple that deals with life (swinging) ideally. Find couples that are efficient and adept at dealing with issues between themselves, and are not so selfish to let things get as far as the bedroom before unresolved issues they have in regards to swinging arise during play.
We've had a few situations like that...and they've always been deal-breakers for us. We simply don't have fun if we have to work that hard at making something happen.
However, as a consequence, we've become very successful at filtering and weeding out those couples from the get-go. It's really not that challenging, because there is so much that you can read from people simply by observing them, their body language, how they interact with each other, how they compose themselves while you talk about a potential play dates with you, etc.
Even if they're not inclined to be verbally honest up front with you two in a direct fashion, it's typically obvious in their behavior what their true expectations are.
Asking direct questions about expectations has been mentioned and is always an excellent idea. We've found little things along the way that we take for granted as being non-issues for us are actually huge issues for other couples.
Preferences for foreplay, whether or not kissing is allowed, and if so...kissing with tongue. What about oral, is that acceptable? You see, for us they are acceptable, but we must establish that they are with other couples.
We've also found that more drama tends to be centered around the males in couples (sorry fellas).
I'm not stereotyping here, but this has been our experience. We've had more than our fair share of guys that are ok with everything from girl on girl play, to my girl on him play, to both girls on him play, but once his gal plays one on one with another male besides him....oh Lord, the drama starts!
Swinging has been one of the funnest decisions we've made, cuz we've made it that way, and we elect to avoid the drama at all costs, and that keeps things light and fresh. We know for every couple or bad experience we come across, there are 10 more good ones just around the corner. :)
~J~
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Can't wait to see who the "former swinger and faithful Mormon" is. I wonder if she'll be hidden in shadow and have her voice altered. Also, will "the dark side of the swinging scene" be revealed to be interspecies ferret sex? Stay tuned. :
Edit: Just watched the teaser and it appears she IS gonna stay anonymous. Go figure.
ksl - did you watch?? - I honestly don't think there should be too much concern that anyone is going to start 'searching' the internet to find out if they know anyone on sites like these. They are already 'disgusted' as it is and i'm sure they won't chance having a site like this 'appear' on their computer. I honestly think they made their opinions and judgements briefly as they watch the segment last night but it wasn't something that was powerful enough to cause much of a stir. After checking my access logs for the site as well as my placement ads on the search engines designed just for the state of Utah when someone does a search on the keyword 'swingers,' there was not even a substantial jump in numbers. There was actually less people who searched for that keyword as well as 'utah swingers' than any normal monday night or tuesday morning.
I honestly believe most people have already forgotten about it. But for those of you who want to take that extra precaution, it's totally understandable. I just don't think it's that big of a deal to anyone like we thought and if it is, not enough to get them to start searching the internet for it.
Rob
Why swingers are happier. - - The larger question looms as to whether or not those who take anything EVIL posts as something other than sarcasm are happier.
Cumming - In pussy or mouth - There is nothing sweeter than cumming deep inside a woman. And where we are not super active swingers we do have one friend who we have known for a long time and know his sexual history extensively, and there have been a couple occasions where he came inside her and Oh my hell was it hot and even hotter when i unloaded inside of her after him.
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - We don't think single males OR females are swingers... if they are considered "swingers", then EVERY single person on this planet is a swinger. ;)
Hanging out this weekend - Habits tonight?? - [quote=HERRIMANFUN][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=HERRIMANFUN][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=HERRIMANFUN]We enjoy it if there is a couple we are interested in they have sections that aren't so loud that you can talk. But yes it is loud. And we have run into lots of swingers there lots of times. But I hear that a lot I think most people don't talk to people or just walk up to a stranger(s) and say hi. But I the male half does a lot that's how you meet people and then once you chat a bit it comes out that they are swingers. Not a big fan of he meet and greets it's always the same people unfortunately. And that's great for some but we haven't really made a connection at any that we have been too, yet. [/quote]
We have been to the meet and greets too and we don't go very often and have not been to one in ages. Maybe twice a year we hit one but when we do go we pretty much introduce ourselves to everybody and if we missed someone we didn't mean to. You do have to be proactive to be successful in meeting people or at least reactive in a positive fashion when someone interesting approaches you. We have been to Habits and ended up leaving with someone, but we had already had a bit of friendly back and forth somehow with the people we left with or it was someone we met previously and had at least chatted a bit. We think we have only been there maybe five times altogether. Well, maybe Mr. Delicious will put on a collared shirt just in case we head that way but for now we are thinking maybe the Green Pig sounds fun. [/quote]
Well if you make it to Habits please come and say hello. [/quote]
Sounds dandy. For a limited time Mr. Delicious is sporting a now two week old full beard to contrast his shaved head. Part of a guy thing going on with some of his friends. Getting his Viking on which like his Norse god last name came to him through his family's Dublin roots going back to Norway before attacking or we mean landing in Ireland and becoming truly Irish. Mrs. Delicious is tall and sexy and carries her self like the strong willed woman she is so we should not be hard to spot. It is always fun looking for and finding someone you have not really met.[/
victoria secret baby doll and panties - size m/l 38c top - Okay so I was curious and did a little digging on some of those sites. Yeah, some are pretty sick and disgusting. Others are just kinky and a little icky. But depending on how far you go with this (some include pics or even videos with the undergarments!) you can apparently make a LOT of money selling dirty panties on the internet. Personally I'm saving up for a new chaise lounge so I won't be investing in any soiled undies, but who am I to judge what kicks someone's kink...I'm one of those disgusting swingers. [em]Emo_8[/em]
taking one for the team - - Very well said... this is a great topic. Anyone interested in adding it to the Swingers Wiki? ThoughtGarden may have some good words. Here is the wiki: http://wiki.swingular.com.
Site Weirdness - A thousand less members online than usual? - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY]I've only been on here about a month and I get logged out by the site frequently, even as I'm writing something.[/quote](M)Was just reading your profile and half way through I was loged out so guess they still have things to do, but still the best site for swingers. Anyway I like your profile LOL.
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