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New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - [quote=Wildcatz]So I couldn't resist doing some research on the legal side....as we know Utah is a legal mess when it come to sexual issues. But, I did find how a swingers club in Tennessee got around the entire issue....ready for this? They became a church!
Religion in Utah has some serious protections and freedoms. Might be the way around the problem..[/quote]
That is a good idea!
I wonder about the membership idea, don't have a cost to attended but people must buy memberships.
I have seen a lot of unique ideas in the tech area. One being membership tokens. These tokens have value and are traded but they can be used for access and services, if the club had no cost but only membership tokens, it may work around the law.
Here is how a strip club in Vegas is using them. https://legendsroomlv.com/
Would something like that fly here?
Some Food For Thought - - I would venture to say not many folks in the Lifestyle have ever given a whole lot of conscious thought to the following topics, but it may be interesting to see what everyone has to say on them.
In answering the questions, please don't let your own personal likes/dislikes be your sole reason for answering the way you do. Rather, look at it objectively as you feel it applies to others in general.
In all cases, we're talking about adults only.
#1. If 2 women play with and enjoy pleasuring each other in a group, couples or strictly 1 on 1 situation, does that NECESSARILY make them bi-sexual?
#2. What about the same question as it pertains to men?
#3. Where EXACTLY does bi-curious end and bi-sexual begin?
#4. What EXACTLY is considered "kinky"?
#5. Where and when EXACTLY does "kinky" become "perverted"?
For example: Would Golden Showers (by mutual consent) be considered "kinky" or "perverted"?
If something "just happens" during play, is it either?
#6. Is playing alone, even with the knowledge and consent of your spouse, considered cheating?
What about if you play with someone you and your spouse have played with together, only this time you're doing it without your spouse knowing you're doing it? Cheating?
#7. If you or your spouse were to play with someone who is NOT in the Lifestyle, would you consider THAT cheating?
#8. How many of us in the Lifestyle do you think have let our families know that we are Swingers?
#9. How real is your fear of contracting an STD if you participate ONLY with others within the Lifestyle?
#10. Do you feel there is a real possibility of us all going to hell for what we do?
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - THANK YOU, HOTTIEHOGANS....there are some single guys out there who are NOT ASSHOLES. Sadly though, we get clumped into the bunch who are. Nice to see someone knows the difference!
sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - HAHAHAH!!! Our two faves --"I'm only bi when I drink." And -- "Next time let's start before 4 in the morning." Loved it!! :D Thanks for the laugh!!
How Do you Tell - Need to Know - [quote=KARMICSUNRISE][url=http://www.mademan.com/mm/how-tell-if-someone-swinger.html]How to Tell...[/url] How To Tell If Someone Is A Swinger By: Sherrie Hurd Break Studios Contributing Writer Want to know how to tell if someone is a swinger? It is fairly simple to tell when taking certain details in consideration. A swinger is someone who is in an open relationship which allows each partner to date other people. Whether it is in marriage or just as boyfriend and girlfriend; swingers are very open to options outside the relationship. The first indication of someone being a swinger is their overly friendly disposition. Swingers are usually very eager to please whoever they meet even to the point of purchasing rather expensive gifts for their new friends. Contrary to what most think about them, they are not overly flirty as much as just extremely helpful and courteous. It is all in the eyes. The gaze of a swinger is different than that of others. They usually make solid, more aggressive eye contact with those who they have affection for. The majority of their flirting when first encountered is done with their eyes. The eyes are the most effective and safe ways to gage reactions. Swingers are very "touchy/feely". A sure sign of someone being a swinger is their desire to make repeated physical contact. Swingers love to hug and even touch the shoulders of arms of the object of their affections. At times their desire to make physical contact is overwhelming. The swinger is always quick when suggesting a dinner date with their new friends. What better way to get to know others than to throw a dinner party with drinking and invite 'prospective' friends. Swingers know that their lifestyle is a minority lifestyle that some have an aversion to. Couples in an open relationship always want to approach 'hooking up' as delicately as possible. Although swinging is an alernative way of life, it is becoming increasingly popular in todays more tolerable society. More and more couples are learning to accept the mechanics of an open relationship and allowing their identities to be know either through discovery or outright announcement. Posted on: Apr. 02, 2010[/quote]
OMG....so true!!! :D
Orchard Place - Event info - Ryan and Kara are top-notch hosts and the venue is by far the best in Utah for swingers. It's the closest thing we have in Utah to a swingers club -- but it's better because it's clean, comfortable, low-pressure, the music is not loud (so you can actually chat and get to know other couples), and it feels a lot like a low-key meet & greet with a little bit of a charged sexual atmosphere.
The crowd trends towards the younger side (mid-40's and below) but there are a few older folks there.
WAY better than habits.... but we hate loud music and dancing... so... ;)
So are you the gal who folks suspect? or the last person they c - Wish we could do polls on here??? - Both my parents know, and they are on the site. But we keep our sexual encounters to ourselves. My parents probably expected me to be the "bad" girl, my sister on the other hand is totaly different and don't agree with the lifestyle. But we have been honest with our friends and have told them we are Swingers.
sluts? what? - how so? - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=SHADOWINGWHISPERS][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]There is a book called "The Ethical Slut: A Guide to Infinite Sexual Possibilities" written by Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy that defines Slut in a positive light. They might be using slut in that context. The book has been very popular with swingers for quite a few years. [/quote]
I would hope they are using it in that sense.. but words that compile around the slut term make it strongly seem like it's a negative term.. sadly..[/quote]
If they are using it in a derogatory sense it may be because they are experiencing a certain level of self loathing because they are struggling to accept their own sexual nature or they may have peers and family that would do their best to destroy them were they to live so free as you are. I think that the anger that leads to name calling and judgment sometimes is a secondary emotion that people choose to embrace because the primary emotion is much more painful. They may want what you have but lack the confidence or courage to go find it for themselves and so the same people that call someone a slut in the derogatory sense far too often are the same people that go off and struggle with their own sexuality in dark places through lying, cheating, abuse and even darker acts while swimming in a sea of self loathing.
We should all jump up and down and be happy that you are free or striving to become free of such shackles![/quote]
That makes sense.. I hope everyone can undo the shackles!! Great understanding..
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Im a horny old goat with my penis rising...
Married & single? - single minded affrairs? -
It is a double standard. We have meet several couples that would never consider a cheating guy, but would a cheating woman. I think some people ignore the double standard because of the Law of scarcity.
Married/relationship bound men that are exploring without their spouse are no different from Single men has been our experience.
If anyone Male or Female is having a sexual or emotional relationship without their primary partner's knowledge then they are cheating. It's not a matter of the quality or quantity or even if the partner had suspicions or not. It's a matter of trust which they are breaking by having a relationship that their partner would not approve of.
And yes the Law of Scarcity is accepted by many swingers in regard to a female wanting to explore.....including us.
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