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How far are you willing to travel ? - - We've had kisses blown to us and I will generally answer with a note but have, as yet, not received our first answer. Most are quite far away and their profile, like yours says that you would like to be friends and hang out with as well as..... (Not exactly what you said but that's what I got out of your profile) If people are like us, we would travel up to 1 to 1.5 hours to meet or to play because that, to us, is a reasonable distance to have a friendship. If we were to meet someone at one of the clubs that we belong to, and became friends we might travel farther/further. If one believes that to travel a greater distance than would be practicle for friendship then that distance would set the limit. On the other hand, if a couple is out strictly for the sexual encounter and has no expectation or wish for friendship then maybe a stop over in a city on the other side of the country might not be out of the question... If someone sends a kiss and the couple respond it would be nice if that couple would acknowledge receipt of a note. Just common courtesy. On another site we have been invited, by a number of folks, to stop by if we ever get in the area for drinks, dinner, play what have you,,,simply because we participate in forums and we may send a note about their profile or their pictures or both... So ultimately it depends on the couples involved.. If someone were to cum here for a week or more and wish to meet and see what happens then that might be an acceptable situation. Or if we were to go to their area for MORE than a day or a few hours,,(Not just passing thru) then maybe we'd want to meet and see what might happen... We are not notchers or hardcord swingers...attraction is part of the equation with us...So distance is part of the equation virtually always. Ray

Single Males - - [quote=TIFFND] Well said, Mr. Evil! To add to this, we often wonder why most single guys would be into swinging, anyway. I am far from being a Casanova, or Adonis, yet when I found myself alone and back into the single game after 30 some years, naïve as hell, one little post on a dating site brought more than a few ladies willing to just "knock boots". And yes...my profile there made it more than obvious I was not interested in a "forever" relationship. Frankly..listening to many of the single guys here...seems the chances of getting laid are better elsewhere. [/quote] Y'know i can actually think of a reason. Even if most single guys on a swinger site just want to get leid, there are guys who are just as picky about who it's with as most women are. And even if most men are supposedly all about her looks, there are some who are more about attitude and worldview and stuff than they are about looks. And swingers generally have an attitude somehting like "I'm going to do what I think I ought to be doing, not what everyone thinks I'm supposed to do." Which is a VERY attractive attitude to some people, and some guys would much rather be around people with that attitude than around "normal" people. ` Terry

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - For what it's worth here is my 2 cents on the subject. I agree with Don on what he said earlier in this thread. The entire concept of sin was created by the religious leaders as a form of control. Every organized religion serves 3 primary purposes; 1) to explain the why's and how's of creation, 2) to give a foundation of how to live, 3) to give comfort about death. From the beginning of time religious leaders have used the power of religion as a means of controlling the masses to do what the leaders wanted or at least thought was best. Judao-Christian and Islamic religions went a step farther and created the concept of sin as a method of control. They created a list of commandments and declared that to violate these was to be in sin. Some sins were of greater import than others but it all equalled to the same thing, commit too many or even one of the wrong ones and you would be barred from from enjoyment and peace offered in the afterlife. So to answer the original question here, Can you swing and not be in Sin? Absolutely you can. Sin cannot exist seperate of heavily regulated and controlled organized religion. Since Religion itself is a fabrication of man, then so Sin is also a fabrication. I don't know too many swingers that particularly care for anyone else telling them what to do, how to do it, or whom they can do it with, regardless of the area of their life. Especially when it comes to their sex life.

Mormons - - We too find a suprising amount of swingers either are or were mormon, but then again maybe its not so surprising. I often refer to it as the 'Preachers daughter' syndrom: either your pure or you do what you want and flaunt it. Utah seemed to produce alot more of the latter.

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Skittles2469fun - Newbies - Welcome newbies. Like you, we were together more than a decade before we got into the lifestyle. We actually talked, fantasized and researched it for almost 2 years before taking the leap. One site we used that had great info is Swingers Board. We've loved it ever since. The main thing you need to do is be on the same page about what you want, what your rules and boundaries are and have fun. Go to parties. Browse profiles and contact those who interest you. Set no expectations for dates, we've found it usually doesn't go how you think it will (good and bad). Avoid anyone you get a sense of drama from. One thing we did from the beginning and do still to this day. After every party, club visit or date, we'd talk about it. What we liked, didn't like, etc. Did we mention have FUN!!!!!! Also, don't take rejection personally. It happens to pretty much everyone. Oh yeah, HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any Sci-Fi lovers here? - What\'s to describe? Either you like a good sci fi TV series or movie or you don\'t. - OK.... So we've mentioned Star Trek, Star Wars, StarGate, Aliens, Predator, AVP, X-MEN, Dr. Who (which I love), Heinlen, Arthur C. Clark, and a host of others... Sounds like we have a lot of Sci-Fi fans out there. So I'm sure that someone will remember a few British Sci-Fi TV shows that used puppets for the characters... Of course I'm referring to SUPERCAR, FIREBALL XL-5, CAPTAIN SCARLET and let's not forget THUNDERBIRDS...!!! Call me crazy, but I kinda' liked those shows... But then, I like anything that's SCI-FI...!!! Just in case they were not mentioned, let me just say a few that I can remember... Rocket Man, Colonel Bleep, Blake's 7, Earth vs. The Flying Saucers(classic), The Day the Earth Stood Still, The Blob (both versions), The Thing (both versions), Angry Red Planet, FORBIDDEN PLANET (Leslie Neilsen, Anne Francis & Robby the Robot), When Worlds Collide, The Day of the Triffids, Conquest of Space, Rocketship XM (Lloyd Bridges), Destination Moon, Flight to Mars, Invaders from Mars(classic), 20,000,000 Miles to Earth(George Pal), Them, Tarantula, and of course,War of the Worlds... Blade Runner, The Martian Chronicles, The Black Hole, Pitch Black, The Time Machine(both versions), THX-1138, Metropolis, Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidra, Anguilis, and the tiny girls from Monster Island... Not to mention animated sci-fi like Final Fantasy and the like... The list goes on and on... If I missed any, please someone let me know... (p.s. Hey, Wait a Minute... I thought that this was a Swingers Site... LMFAO

Christian Swingers - - By the most basic definition, being a Christian simply means you believe that Christ was the son of God. After that it's all doctrinal squabbling. And at that point all you need is positive outlook, and the general idea that being kind, tolerant, and honest are positive things we all should do, and you've got the makings for a perfect Christian swinger. As far as any such sect being widely accepted, the LDS Church is one of the largest, most famous in the world, and it just so happens that a significant number of people still refer to it as a cult, and think that Utah still has polygamy. Misconceptions abound in any faith-structure. And, at risk of beating a dead horse, (which is a vile and ineffective practice) a joint study by grad students at Princeton and Dartmouth found that 28% of interviewees didn't relate to, or only related a little to their Christian denomination. Now it was a sampling of the population, but given the number of Christians in America, 28% can translate into hundreds of thousands, to millions of Christians out there who don't relate well to their denomination, and can practice their own form of spirituality. But I wax verbose, and slightly British. God bless the Swingers. -V

Vanilla Party pickups - Vanilla Party pickups - I doubt it, unless they are already in the lifestyle and attending as vanilla. I have known people that were not in the lifestyle do it with someone that they have known for a while but you would not consider and they do not consider themselves swingers. So maybe it is possible. If it happens to you let the rest of us know.