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Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Wow! It's adorable to read the comments of those 20 through 40's. We remember those years. There are times that memories of incontrolable thrusts and unconscious passion give pause, but experience... though overstated is under-rated. There are plenty of young'uns out there that appreciate the gentility of exploring "water flow naturally to seek its level." A young, (or young in experience) lady sometimes welcomes someone who has gotten past the self-serving impulses of youth. A young buck who wants to find his stride, unthreatened by the challenges of unknown expectations often does the same. The deciding factor is, are you into the trip, or obsessed with a destination in which you've never reached?

Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - Virginia is for lovers! Everyone cum and have some fun!

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Hmmmm ... more popular than I imagined. And that's a good thing!!!

Hall pass - - InvestigatingKink, it looks like we have been in the LS (lifestyle) about the same time, less than a year. Everyone has different needs and weaknesses in their marriage, and I certainly don't judge what other people do, at least not ethically. We were at a party just last night and talking to several couples who have been in the LS for a lot of years. We were discussing this very subject. They all had stories of people who started playing separately and most of those couples are now divorced. Their belief is that it is often very difficult on marriages and definitely not for the majority of swingers. Now all of you hall pass and open marriage people, don't get freaky on me. This is just speculation on my part and opinion of those I talk to. There are many I'm sure it works great for. I believe the LS can be seriously hard on your marriage if you are not in prime shape. We ourselves have had struggles just doing what we do (as I think everyone has had at some point) so to add more uncertainty to the situation would be tough. Also, to us (again, not judging) this is about a journey we are taking together. I like to watch her interact with people and be flirted with and she enjoys the same. If we were not together it feels as if we have moved on to something different. But we are probably rare. Our name alone, SameRoomOnly, should give you and idea of our ideals. I know this is going to sound crazy, but we aren't in the LS just to fuck a bunch of people. We truly enjoy the fun people, making friends and experiencing new things together. An analogy could be made to travel. We both love to travel. But if we started taking separate vacations all of the time, it wouldn't be as enjoyable. Hawaii is wonderful if I am there alone, but if she is with me, it makes the experience so much better. I want her to share in my experiences. Last thing is that we communicate together, almost always. It isn't that we are jealous of what a person says to either on of us, but we like to know what is being said, as a team. It keeps us honest and open and prevents us from having to recap any conversations. We trust each other completely, but we also realize that anyone can mess up and by putting yourself in a situation that could potentiate cheating or dishonesty doesn't seem wise to us. I'm sure some of you will want to interject and say "well, you two must not trust each other. We never worry about things like that. We love each other too much." Maybe so. But our opinion is that when you start to spend alone time with another person, talking freely about whatever the subject may be and are fucking that person, well...it seems dangerous. It's just like when I am at work. If a girl flirts with me or gets too close, I make sure to tell my wife and keep her updated and I also try to distance myself from that person. Not that I plan on cheating, but we are all human and have weaknesses. And by always being honest and open it helps to keep our marriage strong. So, maybe the truth is that we are just not secure enough in our relationship to do something like hall passes or an open marriage, or maybe the truth is that everyone who tries it will fail miserably and end up divorced. It probably is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, as most things are. Few things are black or white. But we wouldn't entertain the idea of a consistent hall pass. Maybe once, or twice, just to experience it, but an ongoing thing, no way. Good luck with whatever you decide. Mr. SameRoomOnly

Games - - I recommend any of the Sex is Fun line. They're very well made, many, if not most with swingers in mind. I've got most of them myself. I'm not familiar with the ones you mentioned, but if they're any good I'd love to hear about it.

At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - I completely agree with you on the fact about "IF" our son became a swinger oneday. We wouldn't care either way as long like you said he was making a responsible decision and not just going along with someone because he thought it sounded fun or he though hell mom and dad did it I can too. However I must say there are alot of ppl we know personally that would die if their children found out or indeed became swingers themselves,I am of the mind set ppll who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. But of course thats just our .02 and our son does know about our lifestyle and my bisexuality.

Have you ever.... - - Thanks for the awesome stories! Glad to see so many good outcomes.. sad for the few not so wells... there is always a risk in New experiences even with those that deem themselves "swingers". :)

Scuba in Ventura California - Scuba Divers like it wet and deep. - I am a scuba diver spending my birthday diving Anacapa and Santa Rosa off California. I will be there the night of April 10th and leaving Sunday morning the 13th. While there ,I have 7 dives planned during the day but have my evenings free and would love to to make Birthday plans with some of the Ventura Harbor area Swingers. Anyone have an idea of some good Birthday plans? Contact me.

Well that's just fucking weird! - Spooky photo shit going on. - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=EVILDOERS]Okay well THIS has never happened. Had our primary pic, Ms. Evil in a black bikini, now, suddenly that pic is no longer in our folder and a different pic from our unlocked pics is now our primary photo. I'm gonna go with ghosts or maybe Jesus or possibly the NSA (although it probably isn't them since they can't even get into a locked iPhone). Anyone else had this problem? Should I email Admin and tell them they have a glitch? Should I call the Ghostbusters? Should I change my password, wipe my profile, and enter the witness protection program? [em]Emo_58[/em] [/quote] How many beers did you have?[/quote] Only three. I SWEAR! And maybe a hard cider...or two. I tell ya, 'outer darkness' is SCAR-EE! You do NOT want to go there. They don't even have any Starbucks, let alone a DECENT coffee bar (shout out to Sips, the coffee for discerning swingers everywhere!). And there was nary a Pie Pizzeria in sight. Just McDonalds as far as the eye could see. *shudder* And there was this dude. [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc961hkJVrE/Uup9XSE1k-I/AAAAAAAAQBQ/d5jyim4BtWU/s1600/Devil+hell+lake+of+fire.jpg[/img] Not sure what HIS gig was but he kept trying to poke me with his sharp pointy rake even though I kept telling him I'm not into that kinky BDSM shit and I'm NOT bi.

KSL Sucks - 3 posted comments deleted by editors of forums - You're right WDSTKCPL, it is not about the truth, it is about money. Viewers = ratings = being attractive to potential advertisers and being able to charge more per second for advertising = more profit. It has nothing to do about reality. That is why the story was so poorly researched and produced. It was not an attempt at doing a real story but rather to do something all the other channels aren't. The truth is far less interesting then the story they created about how swingers lure unsuspecting faithful Mormon men into a seedy underworld of sex and decption, leaving victims of their poor innocent wife and kids. I said it before, they went into this having already decided what the story was going to be before they even put film in the camera, all they needed was a few juicy quotes to take out of context to support the story they had already written in a production meeting months ago. This is why posts that would be pro-lifestyle are being moderated off their message board: they do not support the story they are trying to present. Everybody loves a scandal, especially those with nothing better to do then judge others to make themselves feel better about their miserable, lonely, boring little lives. It has already blown over to the point of not being on the front page of their website. Just remember the famous lyrics of Don Henley: I make my living off the evening news Just give me something-something I can use People love it when you lose, They love dirty laundry Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here I just have to look good, I don