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Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - first and foremost, boundaries must always be respected and no one ever has the right to do things to another person without their permission. however, i also acknowledge that at a party where the intention/perception that playing will or is occurring can create some areas of "unknown". it is important to find out what is ok and when it is ok. for some, that means french kissing within the first few minutes, others may not. i have seen different ways that people have tried to find out. the simplest and most direct is to ask. however, i have seen people do so by "testing the waters" - small hug, then a bigger one, then a peck, then a lingering kiss, then french kiss, etc. and at each step trying to "read" the body language of the other. and i have seen that some people have become so "desensitized" to some of these things that their starting point is further on the scale than others. i dont have a problem with someone trying to open-mouth kiss my wife (even if they have only met for 2 minutes - which she has done with some guys and girls that she was immediately attracted to). i have a problem if they try, she tells them "no", and then they try again. but we go to these parties with the mindset that if there is a mutual interest of the involved parties, then sex is a likely outcome for the evening (unless the party is a "meet-n-greet"). and for us, open-mouth kisses are part of foreplay with our partners. we have even had some parties that we have just "made-out" with some without engaging in sex. ultimately, it is important to find the common ground of what is acceptable for those involved and being respectful of that. it is also important to politely inform someone when they have crossed a boundary. it is unfair of us to expect that others implicitly know all of our boundaries.

Swing Fit Travels - Travel plans for those wanting to work out - OK, I'm sure I already know the interest level here based on prior posts I've made but what the hell. Is anyone interested in a Swing Fit Travel arrangements? This would be an exercise vacation for Swingers. The involvement level vary from those able to do cardio for 10 hours to those looking to learn and burn (learn to workout and burn calories.) One thing would be paramount: all attendees would be bonafide Swingers. No BS about that. Anyone up for that? I'm thinking of a resort takeover someplace in the US so it is near and easy to get to. Going to Mexico or the Caribbean would be nice but costly. We could even go to Vegas. If you are serious about your weight and knowledge, let me know. Mav

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - personally, we believe that it has something to do with how conservative this state is. it is our belief that ultra-conservative enviroments result in built up tension that is then released in a more risque manner. i think you would find similar type issues in a highly catholic area or the bible belt, etc. but we consider ourselves lucky. you just never know when that hot little mormon girl is going to decide to live out some fantasies. we have been on the receiving end of a few of those and hopefully will with a few more.

Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - oh man...we love nude beaches....we went down to St. Martin last year and had an awesome time on the nude beach

Now a single male looking for a rebound play - - Yeah, swinging can cause huge pressure on a marriage and totally screw it up. I'm sure that's why most swingers, myself included, would never recommend swinging as a way to "spice-up" a marriage that is having some difficulty. You definitely have to be on the same page as your partner in order to give swinging a go -- and then be pretty damn quick on your feet and adaptable as things get going -- perhaps in a direction that you didn't expect. I don't get though, why the OP is back here if he's not interested in swinging for the long term or looking for a woman who is interested in it? Seems this OP is more suited for a singles-type site. And Evil, yes I'd like to see your listing 'cause I'm guessing that at least one of the items involves a douche-canoe going over a large peefall before crashing into a turd log. Or other such silliness, much funnier than what I've just described! ;) Yes ... I know your personality here!

Bucket list - - [quote=swingsetacrobat4439][quote=PARTYINLV]Ours is to pick up a vanilla couple in a vanilla setting and convert them to the lifestyle with us being their first experience.[/quote] Check. We don't know if we converted them, but we are confident that we are their most interesting vacation story. 😉[/quote] We LOVE to pretend that we're vanilla and let people who are obvious swingers pick us up and "seduce" us (This is especially easy to do in Vegas for some reason.). It's really quite fun. Only once did we let the cat out of the bag and told them afterwards that we're actually seasoned swingers. They got quite pissed. [em]Emo_49[/em]

Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - [quote=EVILDOERS]We used to go to the occasional lifestyle takeover/trip and would invariably be issued a wristband upon arrival so that we could get into events at the hotel or resort. It usually took about half a day for word to leak out, first among hotel employees and then later the general public, that swingers were around the area and that they could be identified by their wristbands. I guarantee if the black ring thing took off that very soon there would be multiple internet stories as well as likely regular news outlets that "swingers" wear black rings on their right hands and there goes any anonymity. The VAST majority of swingers would then not dare wear the accessory for fear of being seen/identified in public as a swinger. MUCH easier to just attend private swinging events where you have a reasonable assurance that all or most in attendance are indeed swingers rather than spend a lot of time cruising the bars or whatever looking for people wearing black rings. [em]Emo_67[/em] [/quote] Yeah, i point this out every time this is brought up. As soon as the secret hand shake is out, it becomes useless. I heard about the black ring, upside down pine4, flamingo, and white rocks almost twenty years ago, before I ever dreamt of considering swinging. (I keep seeing people say it was created recently, but it has been around for a long time). Thing is, you can think you've got some kind of secret code, or secret meeting place, but the public already knows. But if people want to wear black rings, I say go for it. Unfortunately, I still have to value discretion, so advertising of any kind in public won't be happening any time soon.

This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Damn we missed meeting so many people most we didn't even know went up there so just a idea how about another campout before the end of the year. To all we met thanks and to all we didn't meet hopefully next time. Thanks again host hostess and all that helped

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Are there any other options to be able to access these clubs for people without a Facebook account?

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=BENT]Lucky you... wish we could have that again. BTW, the Zebra Lounge is NOT even close to a poly relationship and the outcome could happen to ANY lifestyle couple![/quote] Yes, I agree with you on that one! An unstable marriage or partnership could self destruct if the people involved are not honest and open about their true feelings, needs, and motivation as it comes to any form of Non monogamy.