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Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - jstjim72 and Ironhorse thank you. I would just like tosay that I am a very easy going person and I have had women, and couples treat me like a dog, just because I am a single male. yet when I tsake a lady friend with me the same women and couples are very interested in becoming friends and maybe even playmates.{ here is the questions I present } 1. did my looks change? 2. did my personality change? 3. did I suddenly change as a person? 4. did my sense of humor change? the answer to all of those questions is NO I didn't do Any thing to change any thing, except bring a friend. Next question{ what if the friend I brought were a male? } the answer, I wouldn't even make it in the door! When I go to a club, whether it be straight or a swingers club I go to have a good time and enjoy myself. I am very easy going and if I'm on my days off I like to drink. Believe it or not I am less opinionistic when I am drunk because I don't want to get thrown out! I go to a club to have fun and enjoy myself,when there if it turns into a lay great if not noharm no foul! And as far as the websites go, I am still easy to talk to and easy going. The one thing I don't like is that I am denied(fine) and then the couple says they have had noone interested in meeting with them. That is a little hypocritical, there was interest in meeting, just they were not interested; don't lie about it be truthful, say(we are not interested) and also say(the inquiries we have had aren't to our likings or standards) in a lifestyle that is "taboo" or considered as deviant by regular standards, truthfulness is a must! we have to have boundaries,standards and goals to achieve anything, why would that change here? I ama very succcesful business man and like to have fun, I thought that is what this lifestyle was about; fun,experience,friends and of course sex. one has to coinside with the others. I guess I have expressed enough of my thoughts today, I will step aside for someone else to express their thoughts. I didn't write this out of anger or ignorance, I wrote it hoping it will make people think before they treat someone unfairly, and I hope that it gives someone a new insight, and just think as indefinate as things are in life, why should we live in fear. Just have a good time. thanx jeremy

Club 90 - Hosting - We are trying to find clubs to host regular meet ant greets I held one at club 90 the owners let me know today that swingers are not welcome to their establishment we are not good for the club ugh Anyone have ideas on clubs to hold meet and greets ??

Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - Exactly, so instead of saying your a swinger, you should use specifics. Like we are full-swap or we are soft-swap or we are seek polyamory. We are all swingers. It's like saying we are all human, but we have uniquity in ethnicity. I agree that labels help. However, the label swinger doesn't apply to full-swap. It's simply not the way the word was intended. It's not what it means. "Full swap" means "full swap". Swinger means someone that deviates from the moral a social norms of their society with regard to sex. Libertine encompasses swinging because it falls under the scope of being morally unrestrained. I am a libertine by definition and swinging is only one aspect of that word. There was a couple here not too long ago that was spreading intolerance by telling others they weren't swingers because they didn't "full swap". I called bullshit. This is far from the truth. I think tactics like that are used to pressure people that aren't comfortable with full swap into swapping. WE ARE ALL SWINGERS. -D-

Vanilla cruise finder - - We are going on the Harmony of the seas out of Fort Lauderdale on November 25th and was wondering the same thing.....Come on people lets make this a "swingers" cruise.

Threaded messenger - We want threaded messenger - [quote=DANDTCURIOUS][quote=FIT_N_FUN]We used SDC.com when we lived in Draper and had a lot of luck. SLS.com was ok, but it has a really dated format like this site does. FetLife has the best format, but there are some really damaged people on that site.[/quote] “There are some really damaged people” on Fetlife? Really? Lmao ... FYI Fetlife is NOT a swinger site, it’s a BDSM site. Just because you don’t share their fetish doesn’t make them damaged. 🙄[/quote] It's actually a lifestyle site and swinger is one of the designations to choose from when setting up a profile. We've met and played with a lot of swingers from that site, so I'd say it's a viable option for swingers. And to clarify, I'm not referring to their individual kinks. I'm referring to the writings on that site. We've read some deeply disturbing things on that site and if you're an active member, you know of at least a couple recent issues that gained a lot of attention.

couples with kids - - PAS. Head over to the airport and fly on up to Chicago (lol I know how goofy that sounds but HEY it was funny) You can come party with us. CMDuo It is funny we have noticed the same thing. Shy That is why our swinger friends love our kids They baby sit for MOST of them and they get paid well because the are always reliable. Our 16 & 17 year old are not too happy now that they know we are swingers but the almighty buck ruled. LOL (side note, they normally baby sit from 7 pm Saturday to 4 pm Sunday and get $ 75 for two kids. Is that enough?) GOOD GOD Tits you have the energy? LUVBUGS at the risk of sounding like a single guy internet vulture DAMN GIRL would travel to you on short notice <chuckle>

Meeting Couples - How to approach - We travel a lot and see couples we would be interested in getting with. Since we know of no way to determine if they are swingers does anyone have suggestions how to approach or bring up the subject> Ralph and Fae

Facebook group - - There is a page centered in Colorado, with a heavy Vegas following that is very sex positive and includes many swingers, kinksters, SW and just fun people. It has quite a variety of people, and some are not for everyone, but it can be fun.

Statement From Swingular Regarding CW Article - How to protect your privacy. - We've been keeping a close eye on the issues surrounding the recent article by City Weekly. We've decided to post a statement regarding our stance on this issue and also help our members understand how to better protect themselves from this and when future issues arise. First of all, neither Swingular nor it's representatives have been contacted by any member representing CW to do an article. If they say they have, then the person they talked to was not truly a Swingular representative. If Swingular had been contacted by anyone concerning articles about Swingular or swinging in general, our official position is to say 'no thanks' and pass on it. However, that does not mean that those requesting to do the article will find the information they are seeking, one way or another. Just like you can find an adult dating site, so can anyone else. Otherwise, these types of sites would not be in existence if nobody could find out about them. We cannot stop those who wish to investigate the world of swinging and from them telling the rest of the world about it. Every time somebody does an article or spot on the evening news about swinging in the local scene, are we supposed to lock down, run and hide? It's going to happen no matter what you do. So our job is to find ways to best protect the privacy of our members and to inform them on how they can protect themselves. When an article or news story comes out, we have kept track of any unusual activity on the site as well as new sign ups from that local area. The recent CW article has not produced any extra or unusual activity from the Salt Lake City area. In fact, it's been a bit lower. We've averaged about 8-10 new sign ups a day from the Salt Lake City area for the past 14 days compared to 12-14 new sign ups a day in October. So the actual publicity and/or exposure from this has been minimal if at all. The reality of it is this. If my family didn't know I was a swinger and saw an article about swinging, I guarantee they aren't going to 'check' if anyone they know is. They'd rather not know. I think the majority of non-swingers would rather NOT find out if someone in their family was. Yes, there may be a few more lookie lous, but I guarantee you they are looking because they are curious about it, not because they are against it. If you are against porn, are you going to go to a porn site to see what kind of porn is out there? I don't think so. I think you would stay away from something you don't believe in. And that seems to be the case with this recent article according to the stats. Even if someone decides to check it out and see, the only thing they will be able to see is your basic info and your primary photo. Only paying members can see your full albums and only your friends can see your private albums. I don't think many people are going to pay for a membership just to find out if their friends and family are swingers. I'm sure they don't want their hard earned money profiting a site like this. We have been in this business for over 8 years and have seen it all and we can tell you it's more paranoia than anything. What it comes down to is what you need to do to be able to enjoy this site and at the same time, protect your privacy. So we have come up with some things that you can do to be able to move forward and not worry every time someone or some reporter starts talking about the lifestyle. 1. Use a unique username that none of your non-lifestyle friends know of. If you need to change it, please contact us. 2. Do not post anything that can identify you personally in your profile descriptions such as addresses and phone numbers or visible tatoos. 3. Post faceless pictures in your public album. Make sure you don't expose anything on you or around you that someone can identify. You don't need to post cartoons or backgrounds, etc... Nobody is going to figure out who you are with faceless pictures. If you need help editing your images, contact us and we will edit them for you or recommend someone who can. You can also use a free online photo editing site such as www.picnik.com. 4. Do not post any identifiable information in the forums just like I mentioned in #2 above. 5. Use caution when adding friends. Get to know someone first. 6. Use caution when allowing others to see your pictures. There are a lot of picture collectors and fakes out there so if you get a request to see your private album from a couple or single female, voice verify first by phone. 7. Use caution when sending or replying to emails. Use your initials instead of your full names or use aliases until you get to know someone a little better. 8. And last, let these things go. The more you talk about it, the more you feed the fire. I know it's great drama and presents conversation but you're only bringing more attention to the topic. Sooner than later, it will die, if you let it. By following these simple suggestions, you will be able to maintain your privacy and still be able to enjoy using a website like this to meet others. It's not necessary to completely such down your profile in fear. Are you going to do this every time it happens? Well then you might as well just remove yourself from the scene then because it's going to come up again sooner or later. It's inevitable. We hope this helps some of you and hope it helps clear up some of your concerns. Your privacy is our top priority so if you have any questions or concerns, please contact us. Thank you, Swingular Administration Note: We have removed any negativity or hate posts surrounding these issues. We feel that it is hurting the lifestyle as a whole and does not belong on a site like this. We have had many new members contact us saying they do not wish to be a part of a site with so much hate. That is not the intention of a Swingers dating site. Therefore, we will be removing any new postings that involve hate and negativity. If you wish to debate in a friendly matter or post your opinion in a non-threatening or mature way, then do so. We do not believe in censorship however we do believe in providing a safe, comfortable and friendly place for everyone in the lifestyle to enjoy.

member profiles - - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Now now, CHEFFETTE. Don't get yourself in a tizzy. Remember your blood pressure. Also remember that some people don't consider SINGLES as swingers. They just consider it hooking up. Now make yourself a nice cup of Chamomile tea or a Xanax smoothie and take a little nap. You'll feel MUCH better and then you can rip those damned cheaters a new asshole all night long. [em]Emo_49[/em] [/quote] Seems to me they have all the asshole they could ever need. You're right that some singles (ahem, me) aren't considered swingers b/c they don't hook up w/ couples, but the context of this thread is a website for married people wanting to cheat. [/quote] Actually I wasn't referring necessarily to singles who don't hook up with couples. I was referencing that old couples (okay mostly married guys who aren't bi) argument that swingles don't bring as much (or anything, depending on who you're talking to) to the table. Personally we think anyone can call themselves a swinger...and some actually are regardless of their marital status. Whether or not they truly have a swinger's mindset is something altogether different. Some singles do, many don't. And to be fair, there are couples who don't either.