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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Thanks for all the great advice. We still would love to hear more. In this specific situation we had talked about boundries and thought we all understood them. The first time the guy came and then kinda got wierd as my husband was still with his wife. That should have been a huge red flag for us. The next night they still wanted to hang out and confirmed with us they were cool with everything and how he is just shy. So we decided to give it another try. We thought the way he handled it was very rude and immature. Granted when things get started your feelings may change after you have already started but you should never just walk out. We would have understood and if he would have told us how he felt. We will take this as a learning experience and hope it doesn't happen again. Again, still open to more advice.....
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=SEAKINGHER]I was raised to believe that morality and the law are the same thing. People, in LDS society anyway, seem to profess that being moral is obeying the law and that is what they teach their children in church. I have always assumed that other religions do the same thing. But what seems to be said here is that swingers feel that the law has little or nothing to do with morality and that we are perfectly willing to break the law for our own pleasure. Is that what we are saying here.[/quote]
Depends on what you are considering law. I think even in the LDS tradition there is an understand that God's law is higher than man's or governments law. A large part of the controversy of LDS polygamy comes because it was in disobedience to the law. Where church leaders believed that following their religious conviction was more important then what U.S. law said. But if you are taking some overarching moral law, like Kants categorical imperative then maybe. I think most swingers have the same ends in mind and no is being used as a means for an end. However that being said, I think most swingers seem to follow a more utilitarian guideline that pleasure is good and what promotes pleasure is good.
ha just horny...How bout you? - yep horny still haha - i think we are all always horny maybe that is why we are swingers. plus i love loads on my boobs
The Hunt Club of Brevard is in the news - And I thought Utah was a news hog - this subject opens a can of worms.... there is alot of heated discussions... but this is by far a favorite of mine... basically in a nut shell .. like the popos stated there wasnt anything illegal going on... just a bunch of snooty neighbors thumbing their noses because they feel they can...just because "Swinging" isnt socially accepted as of yet... i state that because of the fact as society changes and evolves more widely things are accepted... now in some states they legally recognise gay and lesbian unions, marriage as lawfull comitments as hetrosexual unions and marriages and both spouses are entitled to benifits as male female marriages so its going to be interesting to see what evolves the next 10 years.... like ive said before... who is to say what is normal and acceptable as a society... all we have is learned values and been told what is right and what is wrong... what if for the last 2000 some odd years someont told us that multiple sex partners while in comitted relationships and or marriages is normal and acceptable.. thus people would now have houses where like minded people whom only wanted to have sexual relations with their spouse would go to have fun... and indulge in what would be considered their life style and swingers might be protesting them... so who is to say what is normal and acceptable..... some pompus un informed tight spinchered duff some 2000 years ago and people started believing him and followed suit..... not to ruffle feathers but for over a century F-LDS has belived in poligamy (a whole diferent subject) but they had a good start on passing beliefs down through generations.. but when they allegedly involved minors they broke laws set forth by our forefathers and thus brought into light their beliefs... but thats a interesting mixture of church and state.. church's beliefs vs what the state says is the law....whole new subject but back on topic.... id love to open a club here for one i dont like my fuggin neighbors... and two... its intriuging... those who know us know what i mean when i say that... im working on a play room at work... that has alot of things too big for most peoples houses... but then again a new topic... but the hold up on a club here locally i dont feel there is adequate support in this area... alot of ppls in this area arent as open as sara and i... we cant get fired or ridiculed at work... then again those who know us will laugh at that one... but back one last time to the topic at hand... we need more places to open their doors to groups of like minded people to get together and have fun and not be pushed around by snooty neighbors so people realize "OUR" groups are here to stay and will be soon accepted in societys mainstream..... and be whats considered as the "NEW NORMAL"... a far cry n a hopefull wish... but as accepted ya itll happen as enough people come to light. and as a new normal maby in a few thousand years... cool... dennis and sara
This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - First of all we'd like to thank all of you sexy peeps for coming out to Naughty By Nature. It takes a strong community to bring people together and make all of this work. So thank you for all your help with setting up, cooking, supplies, break down etc. Thanks to all the participates of the Sex Olympics. You guys ROCKED it!
We are creating a protected gallery for all the pics from the camp out, so if you have pictures you'd like to add please send them to us at [email protected] Here is a link to the gallery for Naughty By Nature [url=http://risquesoiree.com/gallery3/index.php/Naughty-By-Nature-8th-Annual-Camp-Out]http://risquesoiree.com/gallery3/index.php/Naughty-By-Nature-8th-Annual-Camp-Out[/url] it will stay unlocked for a few days until we get all the pics posted. Then you will need to contact us for the password. We will also have more shirts available soon if you want one, just contact us. Thanks again, we feel honored to be part of such a great community.
Charly & Lang
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Would be very interested in said club!
Would attend regularly all so would love a nice dance floor .
Hope it works out.
Thoughts about creampies - - I thought that's why swingers love hot tubs, it kills all STD's...
weekly parties to help the community (TAMPA) - - Hi,
We are trying something new, we will be hosting a swingers party this week, We will be holding our parties in the middle of the week, so now there is something to do all week long. Another thing that makes our parties different is the donations, we ask for a 30 dollar donation. This money goes to help needy people across the bay area, alot of families are without electric due to tecos high rate increases, we are trying to help these families get turned back on!!!! What better way to do this?? A great party, and helping people at the same time. All are welcome, sibngles, couples, doesnt matter. There will be some gangbang girls around, fetish seekers and lots of sexual people. We are going to hold these parties every wednsday night. We need the following help:
Places to host the parties, hotels are small and congested, we will use the sailports for now, as they have private balconies, bedroom and a living room. They also have a full kitchen in each room.
Gangbang girls- we need girls who love gangbangs, we can get a lot of support for our cause from the gangbang community
And mostly, we need you, come on out have a great time and help yopur community, as well. All parties are BYOB. We hope to see you all soon, if interested in attending, please email us here or at [email protected], we will be putting an informational page on our website soon. www.xwaveproductions.com . Thanks to all and we hope to see alot of you tommorow night for our first event.
Gene and Karen
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we are going to try and put together a small gangbang party tonight!!!!! anyone interested please contact us before 8pm.
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On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - yeah I think west wendover would be a good idea, as Utah laws I'm sure wouldnt allow it (if it was an official business).
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