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Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - I was looking through the forum subjects and when I came upon this one and looked I wondered why I hadn't commented, since I am a swinger and am poly for quite a few years and I am involved with 2 women as secondary relationships. Someone said "poly is about being monogomous within a plural relationship." The term monogamous doesn't even enter into poly. Poly relationships can be primary, secondary or tertiary. Further people can be added on add-infinitem, so long as everyone involved in particularly primary and soemtimes secondary relationships are consentual about that aspect. In tertiary relationships it is necessary that that they be aware of all other relaionships and OK with that concept. I also belong to a Poly group that is not like Yahoo or AOL groups. It is privately owned and is open to poly and poly friendly people. While I know that a small number of the group does swing, they do not advertise. Poly people generally take issue with swinging as be strictly recreational SEX! and no love where as poly, supposedly, is love based not necessarily any sex....but sex usually is involved at some level. The attitude is that swinging is not a good thing that swinging is diametrically opposed to poly. We definitely do swing and I have 2 secondary relationships. One could be a primary if she could get over the hurt from a failed..abusive marriage of 18 years. We met thru swinging and will continue until I can't walk talk or motovate. My wife while not professing to be poly is in love with that lady as well as I am. We would invite her to join us as a primary relationship and have mentioned that to her... She is afraid to "lay my heart out and have it stomped on again". So while there are some similarities in swinging and poly in that more and more swingers are looking for relationships, i.e., "friends with benefits" ; "Friends in and out of the bedroom". These friendships are based on attraction and sex after the attraction. Poly people take the concept that poly is based on loving someone and if sex happens then OK, but that love is the key and sex is at best secondary. I don't have any problems with poly and swinging. We have met people while swinging and I have fallen in love or they have fallen in love with my wife or me. Swinging and poly are definitely compatable..at least for us.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I'm far from PC, but there are some things I don't find funny.

Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - We were there too. There were unsupervised kids all over the place all day. They kept coming up to the 9th floor until they were told to stop by the cop. Then they came up the stairs. And this was in the day when there was nothing to see. Where were their parents???? BTW, I noticed the lady who was \"pulling down her skirt to show her diamond thong.\" I even complimented her on it. She never pulled it down as low as her ass crack. This kid cold easily see this on the girls he attends school with -- andseen it at school! That\'s what the girls all wear now. For the most part the men wore tuxes or suits and the women mostly wore formals. Of those women who elected to dress more sexy, I saw nothing that one could not see at a beach or pool in Florida. AND--These parents had a large area away from the bar (which we had to walk through to get to the ball room -- and the ballroom had NO windows) and away from the elevators (which were glass) that they could have taken their kids to. But then they would have had to be there to supervise their kids -- which by and large the parents were not in attendance to do. Mostly the parents who were aghast remained absent and allowed their children the run of the hotel unsupervised. Needless to say (kids being kids) they go where they\'re not supposed to. They tended to camp out at the tables (in the bar) right under the elevator(so they could get the best possible view) and watched the show. Then decided, after benefitting from the entertainment), that they were offended! I\'m sorry, but you can\'t have it both ways, folks! While the hotel should have managed their booking better (as they did have ample warning and knowledge of the demographics of these two groups), this is one of the most flagrant examples of parents not adequately supervising their children that i have ever seen. Thse kids worked all day to try to see something, and then, when they did, they watched for hours. It\'s sort of like ordering a meal, eating the whole thing, and then deciding it was bad and wanting your money back.:@

BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - This is an interesting thread. I enjoy reading the sensible and somewhat innane, pseudo "I know what I am talking about so you all listen to me" comments. Thanks for keeping it interesting. In our family, my wife's two kids, should they ever find out, would laugh, tell us "you have got to be kidding" and then move on. My kids, who are adults but a bit younger, would want to have a lively discussion about it and then move on as well. We have raised our children to be acceptant of everyone, their eccentricities and lifestyles. The are all comfortable with each other and discuss pretty much everything so no problems there. As a part of the discussion about family, Netta's two brothers are in the lifestyle and "came out" to us within the last four months.....I think to see our reaction.....and were quite shocked and pleased we have been in the lifestyle for over 5 years. We suspect her mom and dad played as well. And you know......no one in the family has killed themselves because of it. If nothing else, it generates conversation. Something else....as I DO work in healthcare, particularly focusing on psychological interactions...those who tend to support their comments with cursing, or "I know what I am talking about", tend not to. They just have a pathological need to force their opinion, for that is what it is, on everyone and have it taken for fact. Typically, they tend to be arrogant and have a pretty inflexible belief system. Anyway...MY OPINION.........lol As the adadge says,"let the buyer beware" and......the truth isn't any truer because you yell it the loudest. As always.........enjoy........have fun.........be safe Doc (and Netta)

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"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - Ah, give the guy a break. He might just have thought it was funny like some lady's boob flopping out of her dress in an incredibly public situation, and isn't NECESSARILY transphobic. I'd suggest that there ought to be a term for folks who think someone inadvertantly embarrassing themselves is funny, except that I fear it'd probably end up being something like "normal". As Valentine Michael Smith said, "Perhaps I don’t grok all its fullness yet. But find me something that really makes you laugh, sweetheart … a joke, or anything else – but something that gave you a real belly laugh, not a smile. Then we’ll see if there isn’t a wrongness in it somewhere and whether you would laugh if the wrongness wasn’t there.” “I had thought – I had been told – that a ‘funny’ thing is a thing of a goodness. It isn’t. Not ever is it funny to the person it happens to." ~Terry '.

Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - If anyone's been to "Swinger's Circle Thursday" play and "Purrfect Play's Friday Penhouse", we would love to hear their opinion. We'll be in Vegas last week of April and have been getting emails from these groups on other sites about their events.

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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - we were kinda getting busy last night when the story aired, and just now watched it on the web. Wanted to add something useful to this thread, but see that it has taken a downward, spiraling turn into some geeky abyss.

male curiousosity - - Hubby is bi and we don't hide it. There are a lot of people on here that are bi and state they are stra8. As far as for STD's please people be more opened about it....if you sleep with one you sleep with whom ever they have slept with. What makes you think your are going to contract STD's from giving a man oral and not from a woman...especially if we are a full swap couple....let's just say am sucking on 2 cocks at the same time....hummm wouldn't I be the transporter of the STD....so...My hubby and I know that we are playing Russian Roulette on here. We have become swingers, we don't know who everyone we have been with, had been with prior to us..... we take the necessary cautions and we never go bareback does that protect us completely...NO.....like I say, Russian Roulette but we both have talked about it and it is a consequence we have to face if it does happen. Oh bi the way it is so hot to see 2 men on a 69