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How do you spot a Swinger..?! - tell tell signs of the lifestyle - [quote=CHRKE2]The mention of "Hedo" strikes me as fairly good 'code'. [/quote]Funny you should mention that. Not sure that would work so well: we went to Hedo 2 and were surprised by how many vanilla's there were there. After a few days, we took to breaking the ice by asking if they "were on any lifestyle sites?" or if they "had their profile posted anywhere as a couple". Being that we were at Hedo, we were obviously not afraid of offending anyone (it is Hedo after all!), but it quickly let us know what their status was. Even still, the couples we ended up hanging out the most with were non-swingers. C&M P.S. Oh, and then we had my college friend who, when we told we were going to Jamaica, asked if we were going to "that Hedo3". 90% sure he is vanilla.

Giving Up ?? - When do you give up ? - We go on a case by case basis...The biggest determining factor is if they set up and cancel last minute or if they cannot set up. Also a large part is how attracted to them we are...the more atttracted, the more patience...BUT if they stop returning emails, phone calls, etc...We write them off as either fantasy swingers or those who do not know what they want.

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - May I recommend a wonderful book? The Ethical Slut: A Practical Guide to Polyamory, Open Relationships & Other Adventures. Written by Dossie Easton and Janet W. Hardy. I found this book very positive, helpful and informative. A wonderful guide to that "evolution" you are referring to. Best of luck!

The People of Whoville are Swingers! - Adult Humor In Movies - Hi

Christian Swingers - - when it comes down to swinging its more of a cultural prefrence and it can spiritual within it's self in some ways . But I agree with most of the forum we all have a personal belief but only you can say what you believe to be acceptable by your belif and not . I 've learned to do what i want and fuck anyone who chooses to juge because it's are life they don't have to live it besides you can go left ,right , up,or down there will always be some one to disagree with your disicion .So in short your damned if you do miserable if you don't . fuck acceptance you only live once.

Kauai Hawaii for Thanksgiving - Nov 19-27 - We will be staying at Poipu Beach on the south shore of Kauai from the Sat before until the Sat after Thanksgiving. Are there any Swingers clubs or hangouts on Kauai? Nude beaches at least where we can have some late night fun? Thanks.

Single Males - - [quote=CTA313][quote=EVILDOERS] ...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote] Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopter”. Call me old-fashioned. [quote=EVILDOERS] I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote] Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait. I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to. [quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote] This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging. [quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote] If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did” chestnut. [/quote] Yes, I agree, "finesse" was a poor choice of words. In my defense, I was at work and rather in a hurry to make a point...that apparently I didn't make well (and my attempts to also be humorous apparently fell flat too). Rereading my post it does smack a little of mild gender bias but I can assure you that it wasn't my intent in any way and most certainly is not my outlook on women, relationships or life in general. My intent was simply to advocate approaching swinging as a mutually desirable activity that two partners desire and share equally in. And not that it matters, but I've shared my wife with probably over a hundred men, married and single, and I've never thought of any of them as competition. But I never thought of swinging as "sharing" my wife either, but instead as her deciding to be sexual with another person and me being totally okay with her decision to do so. Sharing her, to me, almost denotes some sort of ownership or at very least some kind of permission that I would have to give. Both those ideas are not a part of our relationship. Perhaps the concept of "competition" in swinging interactions is a single male attitude? I don't know. And I didn't mean it in any way, shape, or form as a "you must suffer as I did" trope but simply as the idea that we invested a LOT of hard work and time making our marriage what it is and together deciding to risk opening it up to the excitement and also the possibility of harm that is swinging. I think, perhaps, that sometimes single people in the lifestyle don't quite understand the very real possibility of permanent damage (or worse) to the relationship that couples who swing are flirting with. For many (most?) of us, our marriages/relationships are THE most precious thing we have. What, if anything, are you risking? A bruised ego?

What is is with local couples? - Anyone else seem to have the problem with couples local to where you live NOT wanting to meet? - Common decency...What is that? Ignoring someone's email seems to be the way to NOT say they are not interested...Seems plain old rude...especially when there is an easy no thanks email already written for you on here... Anyway...If you ever get to FL SWMTCPL...We would not ignore you ;) Also...he thinks there are a lot of "fantasy swingers" on these sites...they are all about the fantasy...BUT when it comes down to it...they are not ready or willing to do anything...Rather than say so, they ignore you...Just HIS opinion

Looking for Advice - Recently coming back into the LS - Hello! So I just have a question. We were in the LS about two years ago.. and since getting back into it, it seems like what we want is not as accepting ( or that we aren't actual swingers). We aren't a full swap couple and I feel like that hinders us from meeting new people and just getting out there. While I enjoy watching my husband with other women, I have no desire to be with anyone other than my husband. Is this weird? We have talked to a few couples who just question why were are in the LS at all. They have said that what we are looking for is a "tall order" or that "we aren't actual swingers" which I can understand to a point.. but isn't this site for people also looking to explore their sexuality in a safe place with no judgements? I would love some feedback or advice if anyone else in a similar situation because at this point I don't feel welcome. Thank You!

HELP!!!!!!!!! I guess we need to work on our profile - - Maybe you could add a coupon for a free bowl of soup? That's always a big hit around the holiday shopping season. If that doesn't work, be sure to add the lines about how in love you are with each other, how you are DD free and expect to stay that way, you are looking to spice up your great love life, and be sure to write NO SINGLE MALES!!! 3 times all in CAPS so people know you are REALLY serious... You don't want any of those sneaky little bastards squeaking through the cracks. Oh yeah, don't forget to dress up your profile with those fancy MySpace backgrounds. Include a picture of your sportscar, boat, and two-headed squirrel that you caught while on your exotic vacation in Rexburg ID... these all get extra points. Last but not least, you gotta have a closeup shot of your genitals. Who says that once you've seen 10,000 knobby/dried up peckers, they all look the same? When in doubt, look at the profiles of other popular people on this site, read their clever ads, and do the old "copy and paste" routine. Just don't copy their pics, people may be disappointed when they are expecting Ben and Jennifer, and they end up meeting more common folk. Warning: Don't copy our profile. It is down right stupid and was obviously written by an ignoramous. The bottom line... profiles are pretty much all the same. Writing some clever literary prose ain't gonna get you laid. The only thing I've got going for me is a hot wife (bait), alcohol (to relax the spouse of the guy who wants to fuck my wife), and chloroform (to disable the other guy's wife when she finally decides "there ain't no way she's 'taking it for the team' with that crazy bastard! " Oh yeah, one more thing.... I also was smart enough to move away from Utah to a place where there are good swinger clubs, lots of hot sexy swingers, and our law-makers aren't a bunch of old white haired guys, in funny underware, who think a good time involves green jello and an accordian player! I gotta tell my former neighbors... I've been to "The Place" and it definitely is NOT in Utah. (Note: the Cirque at Snow Bird and Catherine's Area at Alta might be the closest exception to that last statement) I hope that was helpful. Good luck with your profile. :D