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Swinging ,Or cheating? - - Swinging is having sex with people who are not your legal spouses. By definition, having sex with someone who is not your legal spouse is cheating. Therefore all swingers are cheaters, whether or not the spouse knows it. Now, throw that out the window, and label everyone who swings, as cheaters, but ONLY if their spouse does not participate. Don\'t bother to find out if he or she knows, approves, or even suggested it themselves. Having said that, I am still totally amazed that there are so many narrow-minded folks in this lifestyle. Yes, I completely agree that EVERYONE should know what is going on. I completely DISAGREE that those who play without their spouse\'s participation are automatically defiend as cheaters. I cannot speak for anyone else, but the fact remains, I don\'t do a thing without my spouse knowing about it. That includes participation in video chat (which she comes to very frequently, just ask anyone who is a regular), e-mailing or chatting with others, meeting, hanging out, or even adult play. If people bothered to get to know me, they would know that. But they knee-jerk and completely eliminate great people like me from their lives, just because they didn\'t bother to look before their leap to label. If they want to shut me out because I am married and my wife doesn\'t participate, they should go ahead and exercise their right to do so. It doesn\'t bother me a bit. They are perfectly entitled to do so, and I applaud them for that choice. But they are not allowed to jump to the conclusion that I am \"cheating\" because she doesn\'t play. That\'s grade-school-playground namecalling, slanderous, and beyond immature. If you don\'t know the circumstances, then you don\'t have the right to go around labeling everyone else. Whoever you are.

Imus Fired - The beginning of the end of Free Speech? - - ..................."we are squabbling over Sharpton and Jackson. Granted, I think the glorify things that are small. They are trying to make mountains out of mole hills.".................... You really coulda stopped typing right THERE. They DO try making mountains and in this case they REALLY succeeded. Would someone pulll--eeeezzze explain the point of fact away that if the phrase he used was SO horrible, SO despicable, SO outlandish, SO hurtfully-meant, SO otherworldly, Why OH WHY is it that it has been regurgitated to us 4,852,956,811 times in other media outlets....If he had come out and said the word "nigger" (derived originally from the Latin negro, which describes the COLOR black...not the human being....) noone in their right MIND would have republished it, but the "phrase that pays" in this case has actually become the punchline already. We all need to have the conversation that rages now as a result of this incident but not for the SAKE of the incident, rather for the sake of understanding. We also need to realize that we should not be quite this hypersensitive over words... and that is all this boils down to...language. Thank goodness that swingers are inherently open-minded...because the rest of the mainstream country sure falls short. ........."But, when the Rutgers girls were insulted, that gave the NCAA a position ".......... I sure would like to know how many of these women actually knew who the hell Don Imus was before they had this shoved in their faces as being an issue they should be hurt by.

San Diego clubs? - Friday June 4 - We'll be in San Diego on Friday June 4. Is there a good swingers club the wife and I could visit that night? Then we'll be in Los Angeles Sat night. What about a club there? (We've been to Sea Mountain Inn in Palm Springs and enjoyed that, but we didn't want to drive that far Sat night) Thanks!

Disabled Swingers - - [quote=TWOBEARS]We don't post in the forum often but we feel this is a good time. Me being the male half of the couple and the wife being in a chair have been through this at the beginning. Sure there are people out there that for some reason have a problem, but you will find more people that are open to the experience. We have met cuntrybumpkins at parties and they are great people. We have met alot of great people from swingular that look at her as a person and dont even notice the chair and for that there have been many memorable times. Majesticwolf also very cool Naughty and Lucky the list goes on and we hope not to ofend the others by not mentioning them. We have even met Rob several years back and he is also an awesome person. The point is don't be discouraged, keep on getting out to meet people. One thing she would like to see is for people to just come right out and ask, to her that is the most polite way to get to know her and find out what her limitations are. Which are very few. twobears[/quote] Awww, thank you!!! You guys are awesome, very cool people and we are the ones who are lucky to know you guys!! Kisses...Naugh-Ty

Yet Another Cheater - - Dayyuuuummmm This ones is getting thick. Nothing like a good hot topic on a cool Wednesday. Cheating = lying = bad. Playing alone Is not cheating. Anyone who wants to dabble in this world is going to run across some unsavory shit. You don’t go to a bikers bar and bitch about there being so many bikers. I’m not saying swinging is the same as cheating but let’s face it we’re dealing with extrarelational sex, lines get blurred. A very pious couple might look at sanctioned swinging and say we’re all fucking nuts. Normal swingers look at a cheater and question hus/her morals. I feel like everyone wants to point their finger down stream and call them assholes. We’ve run into cheaters too, we roll our eyes and move on. Vent if you need to vent but don’t let the bastards (or bitches) get you down. Have fun!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on: Jan 8, 2008 - 7:20 am AKLIM69, Look at the "who's online" button under the SEARCH/BROWSE tab. There are plenty of people online right now seeking single males. Granted they are the minority, but from my locale, the search brought a 20-30% return per page, for those seeking single males. Again, it's not up to you or I to dictate what it sexually acceptable for everyone else. If that were the case swinging should be outlawed because we sure as hell are not the majority compared to the rest of the country. -D- My point was that they are the minority not that there are tons and tons of people looking for single males. There are quite a few to be certain. However, it is usually not in the clubs or at least not so much in the WI-IL area. No it is not our right to tell others what they can or cannot do UP TO A POINT. That point being that all involved are consenting adults.

Swingular Hacked! - profile and email revealed - Googled AZWETNWILD...came up with Real Swingers and LoveVoodoo profiles for them, but no MAVENX. No Swingular either...

Best Swingers club in Cincinnati area? - Swingers clubs - Thanks Classy. That's what we heard about Princeton too, so we are definitively going to check it out.

Couple in Sandy - could use some tips - - [quote=HUMMINGBIRD]Hell I didnt even know there was a fancy side to the bar at Applebee's[/quote] That's where they hold the swinger's meet'n greets on Saturday nights (the dance floor is REALLY small so get there early--bogo appetizers to the first 50 swingers!)...and apparently, the annual convention for the Order of Fraternal Unique (Professional) Couples or, O-FUC!, as it's commonly known.

Keeping safe - Single females staying safe - Terry, That's all fine and good but you don't think that a guy might just SAY that in hopes of changing the girl's mind later? I'm not questioning your integrity or motives just saying that, in general, many guys will say and do just about anything for sex. I could easily imagine quite a few scenarios where a guy could come across with seemingly good intentions but have ulterior motives. Hell, we've had guys write us and ask to meet them and their wives (without disclosing that we're swingers) and suggest that we get the wife really drunk and then have sex with them. Again, I'm not saying anything about YOUR character or motives, just that because a guy SAYS he won't play with his "date" doesn't necessarily automatically make him trustworthy. YMMV Evil ps- We won't EVEN get into the subject of things like date rape drugs which by many accounts ARE being used in the swing scene by nefarious individuals. [em]Emo_8[/em]