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Is there a small group of couples - - [quote=DODGE1]We spent the night at Secret's Hideaway in Orlando last week, Now the miss's want to buy a hotel and turn it into a place like Secret's I told her Utah would never allow a business like that in the state of Utah. So we figure go with some thing that would work in Utah :) [/quote]
LOL, we were driving though sardine canyon the other night and I said we should buy Sherwood hills and turn it in to a swingers resort.
what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - I would turn him in and get him kicked off this site. What an Ass.
On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children -
Hey Wicked,
I hope you don't mind, but I went ahead and shared this info to a couple of swingers groups (with credit to swinular of course) about this case. What a crock! As if these folks who seem to have it "together" truly don't have anything else to do but to focus on this lifestyle. Oh well, such is the life. We'll give them the support as they need it.
Ed
(EdNBrenda)
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
JUST GOT SOME GLOW IN THE DARK TOYS - SWINGERS TOY STORE - I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE ADDED A TOY STORE TO SWINGERS OF AMERICA.COM, AND I LOVE THE NEW GLOW IN THE DARK TOYS .VERY COOL . PLEASE KEEP THE IDEAS COMING . AND WE WILL TRY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
JUST A REMINDER .HALLOWEEN IS COMING UP . PLEASE CHECK OUT MY COSTUMES .IAM RUNNING A $2.00 OFF ANYTHING BEING SOLD BY MY UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH . U CAN STILL PUT IN A SPECIAL ORDER FOR STUFF THAT ISNT LISTED
IF U SELL NAUGHTY TOYS AND STUFF U MAY PUT STUFF FOR SALE IN THE AUCTION PART.
NEW AND USED STUFF IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME . MOVIES ARE VERY NEEDED AT THIS TIME .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
Swingers of Color - - Were here and we are a mixed couple. I have seen more than just a few on here......
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Add us sanpetesinners
Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - In my experience, try to ask an innocent question, as in, 'Have you ben to *insert name of local swing club*?'
UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?"
We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing.
If you know of anything tell the world.
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - I'd love to have an event space dedicated to carnal pleasures! I teach sensual massage courses (http://slcsensualmassage.com) and am involved with The Intimacy Institute of SLC. (http://womenturnedon.org). We would love to conduct lifestyle courses dealing with all aspects of sexuality including body image workshops, massage courses, relationship seminars, panel discussions about topics ranging across the LBGTQ, BDSM spectrum.
Please don't hesitate to contact me at [email protected] if you'd like to chat. We have an amazing staff and are just looking for the right event space.
Jeff
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