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Brest implants - - I love my breasts! I got 450cc silicon under the muscle about 2 years ago and never regretted it. I didnt get a lift and I dont know how much scarring that has, but my scars from the implants aren't bad. The incisional scars are about 1 inch wide. I was very worried about scarring myself, but I think the small scars are worth the huge boost I got in my self esteem. I had nice breasts before, just a little small. But now they are perfect. My only wish is that I would have gone 50cc bigger, but anything is bigger than what I had before. I look so good in everything I wear now because I have cleavage and curves. My breasts look and feel real. I have had strangers (swingers at parties and people at topless beaches) that come up to me and say that they are too perfect to be real. I have had husbands come say that their wife wants implants but they dont want their wife to get them because they hate fake breasts, but seeing mine made them change their mind. Funny, cause that is how I talked my husband into getting on board (saw a topless girl with perfect breasts in south beach). I think the most important factors are 1)to make sure you do it for the right reasons, (mainly that YOU want it done and are not doing it for anyone else), and 2) to make sure you get a good dr. My dr actually did my mom's breasts 20 years ago and her's still look great and I knew he had a lot of experience, so that is why i went with him. I have seen some bad breast jobs though, so definately make sure you see the dr's work beforehand. Anyway, hope this helps.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We would love to be involved.let us know.
Mormons - - Actually, there are active Mormons who swing. They just don't follow all the guidelines of the church. It's not that it makes them inactive, just maybe not so good at following doctrine.
I used to be very active. Temple attending, garment wearing, teaching Primary and Relief Society. Yep, that was me.
Then I realized that was not what I truly wanted and I left the church.
I've met a few couples active in the church yet were active swingers.
Ali
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - OMG FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW A car battery charger works great too...........lol
(So i hear) :z
Looking for an attorney in the lifestyle - Question - I don't honestly think you would need an attorney. Most swingers clubs opperate as just a house that holds parties. Unless you are serving alcohol you shouldn't need license of any kind. at the door, you have donations, not entry fees. The only place i know that did have an operating license was in San Diego, THAD's. The owner had to file suite against the city and county to get the councilman and law enforcement to stop harrasing him. The city finaly gave him a license as a "Sexual Encounters Club" but not allowed to serve alcohol. Anyone that brought alcohol had to put it in a fridge and could take out their own alcohol anytime they wanted, but the helpers couldn't serve the alcohol.
Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=EVILDOERS]I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.[/quote]Absolutely agree. Well said Mr Evil! BTW...Do you know if those X-Ray glasses really worked?? I always wondered...still do. I have particulair attraction to "landing strips"....They could be real handy sorting out potential play partners!
Have the forums become... - Forum Poll - ...a sad parody of the booty call section?
1) Yes, but how the fuck else do you get people to consider fucking you? I mean it's just TOO HARD to actually read profiles and write a thoughtful, provocative email expressing your interest and reasons why you think you might be a good match with a particular person or couple.
2) No, the forums were actually designed expressly to make it so someone has to expend as little effort as possible searching for and connecting with other like-minded swingers.
3) I didn't know there was any other way to try to connect with other people besides the forum. Besides, I'm spending 3 Gold Dragons per month to be a member and I damn well expect to get my money's worth in easy, free nookie! Dracarys!
4) Fuck you, Evil. You probably only get lucky when the junkies who live under the viaduct need a fix and you have a few bucks leftover from your SSI check to pay them for a BJ.
5) Meh, we just spam out Friend Requests and hope a few of the people we send them to will do all the work and try to convince US to fuck THEM. It's reverse psychology!
6) I'm starting to think this poll is just a tad sarcastic.
7) It's Saturday night and our Dance (Fuck) Card is so full we'll have to visit the ER early tomorrow morning for the severe chaffing from fucking so many people. Who needs forums?
8) That does it! We're going back to AFF and cruising for sex partners at run-down dive bars after last call.
North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - This group continues to amaze me, year after year. Swingers constantly say they are not treated equally yet when someone posts something different from their views, they attack just like all bigots do.
The gentleman posted something that is intriguing. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to respond. Put your effort in typing on other posts. Why does his status matter? He paid to be a member of this site just like you did. If you don't like that, go found your own site and make the rules.
As for the OP, yep, very typical in Utah circles. Waste time at the local watering hole while putting on calories. No physical standards at the State level so it is no surprise.
Mav
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - WE read an article recently about swingers wearing black rings to identify each other (any finger but the middle as that seems to be reserved for asexual community). Is this actually a thing that people do, or even know about?
Any other ways that potential swingers identify if a normal community setting?
Cuckolding - Interesting article from some outsiders, what do yo - - I read the article and from a swinging standpoint don't consider encouraging and enjoying my wife's enjoyment of her sexuality as anything even approaching cuckoldry. I'm sure some vanillas might see it differently thru the lenses of their "vanilla goggles" but swinging is definitely NOT cuckoldry. The sad thing is that (yes, I have to go there) some single men view coupled male swingers as nothing more than cucks and often act accordingly and thus perpetuate the dreaded SM stigma. Don't get me wrong. There definitely are cucks in the lifestyle and to some the "hotwife" style of play approaches if not at times reaches the level of cuckoldry. But the vast majority of male swingers are definitely not cucks and simply enjoy the fact that their partners are free to explore their sexuality and "get off", if you will, on the fact that their partner is turned on and experiencing their sexual desires to the fullest.
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