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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I was raised to believe that morality and the law are the same thing. People, in LDS society anyway, seem to profess that being moral is obeying the law and that is what they teach their children in church. I have always assumed that other religions do the same thing. But what seems to be said here is that swingers feel that the law has little or nothing to do with morality and that we are perfectly willing to break the law for our own pleasure. Is that what we are saying here.

KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u

why is it ! - - I think it's all or mostly about perspective, physical perspective. We get to see them having sex from a totally different angle. When we are involved we can't see the whole picture (or is that hole picture). We are also, caught up in the in the event as well. So when we see them in the throws of passion (since I'm such an illiterate schmuck, the word fucking would suffice) we have a different view and a different "perspective". If we are also, and at the sme time engaged with the guy's wife we may also get that little feeling of naughtiness added to the voyeuristic sense we experience. If we are truely swingers we have grown beyond the urge to pounce upon the other fellow since we conscienously, both husband and wife conscented and made the decission to have sex with others and placed jealousy in a trunk somewhere. So I really think it is a different perspective than we get when we have sex with them.

Bare Necessities Cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale - Anyone going - Well, it is a nudist cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale that goes to the Bahamas, Half Moon Cay, Key West (two days during Fantasy Fest), and then to Cozumel. While it isn't a swingers cruise, there are a pretty good number of swingers going and should be fun. Here is a link for it: http://www.bare-necessities.com/fantasea.html

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Done

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - We may know who the fake profile is. We received a friend request today. It seems a bit fake and has the text about "spicing things up" The profile was created within the past month. Contact us if you want to know who we think it is. We don't want to say for sure....but it fits what has been described in this thread.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Well you know that those with birds in their heads are prone to flights of fantasy. I am glad that you have an opinion about everyone, because we do what they say about opinions. You have proven your point, not that there was ever one to start with.

Looking for Swinger friendly hotels in Brevard Co. Fl - - Here are all of te sites that I could fit together from all over FL... Hope this helps. Name: AMORE SWINGERS CLUB Address: P.O. Box 2283 City, State: Ormond Beach, FL Distance: 449 miles Phone: 386-255-1600 Email: [email protected] Contact: Petra & Joe Website: Not Listed Description: PARTIES EVERY WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY & SATURDAY 7.00PM-3.00AM, FOR INVITED COUPLES & SELECT SINGLES. Name: The Lifestyle Ranch Address: 16571 SE 49St Rd City, State: Ocklawaha, FL Distance: 472 miles Phone: 352-625-8918 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/lifestylera... Description: 8 acre secluded Private ranch catering to lifestyle couples and single ladies! We are Free and intrested in friends and friendship only! Name: CharlieWoods Address: Just off I-4 City, State: Orange City, FL Distance: 474 miles Phone: (386) 775-2372 Email: N/A Contact: Charlie and Carolyn Website: Not Listed Description: On-premise for couples and singles. We have 6 acres to party on with dance floor, hot tub, pool and private playrooms. Name: Club Relate Address: PO Box 574584 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 500 miles Phone: 407-678-2540 Email: [email protected] Contact: Tom & Lynda Website: http://www.clubrelate.net Description: A masturbation swing club for couples and singles of both sexes, meeting on Saturdays. Twelve years of operation Name: RANCH 4 PLAY Address: Call City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 502 miles Phone: (352) 483-1988 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://ranch4play.com/ Description: RANCH 4 PLAY is situated on a 5 acre site in a peaceful, wooded site 30 minutes from Orlando Florida. As a guest of RANCH 4 PLAY, you will have access to the cleanest on-premise, private, swingers party in all of central Florida. Name: J.D. & Sandra's Address: P.O. Box 720249 City, State: Orlando, FL Distance: 509 miles Phone: 866-738-3950 Email: [email protected] Contact: J.D. & Sandra Website: http://www.jdnsandras.com Description: On premise club for couples and select singles every Saturday. Name: Florida Social Address: * City, State: Fort Walton Beach, FL Distance: 516 miles Phone: * Email: [email protected] Contact: Steve and Mandy Website: http://www.floridasocial.com Description: Premiere off-premise adult swingers club. We strive to provide adult couples in the swinging lifestyle a fun safe place to meet and get to know other like minded adult couples. Our socials are always exciting and we can't wait to meet you! Rating: (10=Best 1=Worst) 12 Ratings Clean Atmos. Cost Summary Website Avg. 7 7 6 7 You may only rate clubs within 350 miles of you. Name: The Partyhouse Address: 14051 Old Dade City Road City, State: Kathleen, FL Distance: 531 miles Phone: 863-853-7750 Email: [email protected] Contact: Anne Website: http://www.centralflpartyhouse.com Description: We party in a private home, with ample parking and privacy for couples and single males and females. We have monthly special events The parties are on friday and saturday evenings Name: The Bottom Line Address: 3090 Evans Avenue City, State: Fort Myers, FL Distance: 637 miles Phone: 239-337-7292 Email: n/a Contact: John Website: http://www.clubtbl.com Description: Club that meets every Friday night. Name: Deenies Hideaway Address: 5011 W. Hillsboro Blvd. City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 650 miles Phone: 954-428-3336 Email: [email protected] Contact: Deenie Website: http://deenieshideaway.com Description: Luxurious private on premise swingers retreat for over 20 years. We are open 365 days a year. We have gourmet buffet, volleyball, a pool talbe, indoor hot tub, swimming pool and cozy playrooms. Name: Club Hedonism Address: 1000 east sample road City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-783-4741 Email: [email protected] Contact: N/A Website: http://clubhedonism.com/ Description: South Florida's finest on premise club. wed -sat 8pm till 4am couples only sat. huge dance floor private rooms group rooms.Upscale and affordable Name: Club 3299 Address: n/a City, State: Pompano Beach, FL Distance: 651 miles Phone: 954-815-3299 Email: [email protected] Contact: Jeff Website: n/a Description: Social club for those in the lifestyle. Name: Club Chic Address: 525 East Sample Road City, State: Pompano, FL Distance: 654 miles Phone: 954-781-8884 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.clubchic.com/ Description: Off premise club with DJ, buffet, BYOB. Open Saturdays Name: Trapeze Address: 3660 W. Commercial Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-730-8121 Email: [email protected] Contact: Alan or Dennis Website: http://www.trapezeclub.com Description: On premise club open Wed-Sun 8pm-5am. We offer a buffet. BYOB Name: Platos Repeat Address: 321 West Sunrise Blvd City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Distance: 658 miles Phone: 954-523-9818 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.platos-repeat.com/ Description: Private on premise swing club open Wed-Sun. We have a four star buffet, made to oder breakfast on weekends, DJ and alcohol is BYOB. Rating: Name: Anakosha Address: 2338 Immokalee Road #146 City, State: Naples, FL Distance: 665 miles Phone: 941-436-2014 Email: [email protected] Contact: n/a Website: http://www.anakosha.org/ Description: Couples only parties for the purposes of education and exploration of human sexuality and love in the context of marriage and alternative relationships. Membership required.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -

Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - DE2OFUS, This article is about the A&E show. There is nothing on ABC.