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Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=EVILDOERS]I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.[/quote]Absolutely agree. Well said Mr Evil! BTW...Do you know if those X-Ray glasses really worked?? I always wondered...still do. I have particulair attraction to "landing strips"....They could be real handy sorting out potential play partners!

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - Hmmm we chatted with a few friends and here is what we came up with of stuff we do with our lifestyle friends: Tutored a playmate thru a few classes in her Finance program (Females who are intellectually curious are so hot) Helped reroof a house Installed a new hot tub Hung new lights Install Windows Went to the Renfaire with Families Went to the water park as families Went car shopping Helped someone pick out a new house Counseled some folks thru a credit crunch Helped write a couple

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I went with the theory that OLD TRUCKERS NEVER DIE THEY JUST GET A NEW PETERBUILT

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - It is a very site by site thing. Iowa looks like they have a lot of swingers to if you go by Swingvillage. and of course that is where the site it at... St Louis area, same thing based on that site. Hey Florida, you guys look like a rockin bunch, we might have to grab our group and head down....

Weird sex laws. - Oral sex is bad but fucking a corpse not so much. - [quote=EVILDOERS]You have to admit, oral sex IS kinda creepy. But I'm willing to bet it's Obama's (or Holder's) fault. Or those damned libs. Or those damned conservatives. Or those damned swingers, they're RUINING the USofA! Or maybe it's rap music or gay marriage. Or possibly a direct result of Dancing With The Stars. [em]Emo_62[/em] [/quote] lol anti oral laws have been around since the 60's and before long before obama and even the devil bush clan

Swinging versus poly/open - - [quote=SEXYSLC30]I'm speculating here, but it seems the millennial generation as a whole is more open to an open/poly relationship, and it naturally is bleeding into Swingular as more and more younger/ish couples sign up. We started out with very strict rules about emotions for others, ect. Now, we find ourselves on a spectrum where we still occasionally love the "wham bam, thank you mam" aspects of swinging (what were their names again...😁?), but after several years of that, we are now far more interested in developing relationships with the people we meet. Sometimes that means we have really good friends with benefits, however neither of us are closed to the possibility of dating the right person. And I don't believe dating others leads to divorce, however not being honest and failing to communicate certainly does. And that applies to swingers and monagamous couples alike.[/quote] I really relate to your comments and feel we are very similar. Maybe not to the point of dating others but we definitely want to have feelings for others as a couple and individually. The problem is that most of these open relationships seem to be very secretive which leads to distrust and hurt feelings which leads to more extreme behavior and we just don’t want to get caught in the middle of it. We share and communicate everything, half the fun is turning everyone on which cant happen when it’s all secretive. We just feel more and more pressure to be fully open and people care About our boundaries less and less. Guys start actively messaging and trying to sext my wife without asking me if that’s okay first. Women start getting extra demanding of my attention and then finding out their husbands know very little about what’s going on. Single guys who simply can’t be our friend as a couple and enjoy some occasional bull time with the wife without wanting more. It’s just been really odd for us these past 2 years. We also feel that because the current culture of lifestyle parties is more open relationships, new couples get introduced to it and start thinking that’s the only way. So they either do it that way or leave the scene entirely. Our post is partially to let other newbies know there is another way.

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - I would love to join my kik: trknteadybear

Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - Yeah, my bish said green tea was a 'no-no' too. Probably his way of saying, "See? We're not against caffeine, just hot drinks...well, except for cocoa." Don't know about Swingular but on another swing site we're on there are several 'Christian Swingers' groups.

Mormons - - We have met a lot of ex mormons on this site that are a blast to party with. Based on what we know of the LDS church it is very restrictive on most matters involving pleasures outside of the teachings of the church. With all that being said we don't feel like religion plays much of a part in swinging. We usually don't discuss it and we are skeptical when others do. Discussing religion on a swingers site just doesn't seem right to us especially when others in your religion may hold it against you. We don't care what religion you are, what your politics are or what ethnic group your from. We just look for those we are attracted to and whom we can make a connection with both mentally and physically. If we all decide to get naked together then that makes things even better.

Eureka ATV UTV Poker Run - Elks lodge charity - Rally in the pines looks fun. May look into planning that. You know other swingers that go?