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seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - WELL THAT WAS LONG WINDED TO SAY THE LEAST. READ WHAT WAS WROTE AND HOW IT WAS WROTE. IF YOU HAD LIVED IN THE SOUTH FOR MORE THEN A YEAR AND I DONT MEAN SOUTH UTAH. YOU WOULD OF SEEN THAT THE REASON FOR WHAT YOU SAW THERE WAS THIS. WE AS SOUTHERN FOLKS OWE NO ONE A APOLOGY FOR ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, BUT WE AS SOUTHER FOLK HAVE PUT UP WITH THE BULL FOR SO LONG WE ARE TIRED. SO IF WE DONT COME OFF LIKE WHAT YOU ARE USE TO SEEING IN THE OLD DIXIE LAND MOVIES WE ARE SORRY. BUT SENCE YOU DONT HAVE MUCH OF THAT OUT HERE YOU WOULDNT KNOW WOULD YOU. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE I GOT A HOME IN TENN AND FLA YOU ARE WELCOME AT EITHER AND YOU WILL SE HOW IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU LIVE IT. WHEN I GO TO SOME SOCIAL GET TOGETHERS HERE IN UTAH I HAVE TO HEAR HOW BAD WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TOWARDS OTHER RACES,AND HOW WE DID THIS AND WE DO THAT AND ALL THAT CRAP. AND IT PUTS US ON THE OFFENCE AT TIMES. BUT LIKE BOB (MARLEY) HAS ALWAYS SAID DONT WORRY BE HAPPY OR AT LEAST HIT A FATTY. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT A FATTY IS THERE TR I CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAN THAT ONE TOO. LOL BUT THEN KNOWING ALL MUST BE A GREAT BURDEN TO SOME. TO ME AS LONG AS I KNOW IT 5:00 SOMEWHERE I AM HAPPY CAUSE I KNOW IT WILLL CATCH UP TO ME SOONER OR LATER.LOL BUT BEING A JACK MUSLIUM AND ALL THAT IT INTELLS I LOOK FORWARD TO POSTING STUFF LIKE THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF ALL THE NICE FOLKS ON HERE TOOK THE CRAP I READ FROM TR TO BE THE WAY OF THINGS IN THIS WORLD WE WOULD NAVER GET NAKED AND WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN A GEORGE ORWELL BOOK CALLED 1984. SO TR GET LAID CHILL OUT ON THE UP TIGHT ASSHOLE ATTITUDE AND FOR GOD SAKE DONT WORRY WE ARE ADULTS AND MORE THEN ANYTHING WE ARE NORMAL AMERICANS WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, WE CAN HANDLE THE COLOR THING IN AMERICA AND MOST OF ALL WE CAN HANDLE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. QUESTIONS CAN BE ASK WE MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT IS ASK BUT THEN WE HAVE TR TO TELL US WHAT WE LIKE AND DONT LIKE,RIGHT. HELL IF WE ALL LIKED THE SAME THING WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN SOME PLACE LIKE IRAN OR CHINA OR SOME OTHER 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE WE WOULD BE DAMN SCARED TO SAY WHAT WE THINK. SO CHILL OUT GET NAKED HAVE FUN I HEAR ALL THE DOUBLE SPEAK I WANT ON TV I DONT EXPECT IT IN A SWINGER ROOM.AFTER ALL WE AS ADULTS AFTER SEX WITH OTHER PEOPLES WIFE AND OR HUSBAND DOES NOT BEING NAKED WITH A STRANGER NOT BRING ONE DOWN TO THE VERY BASISC THING IN LIFE. BUT HERE I HAVE WENT AND GOT LONG WINDED MY SELF.SORRY FOLKS. BUT I KNOW THERE WILL BE A ANWSER TO THIS FROM OUR LIBERAL FRIEND THAT IF I DIDNT KNOW BETTER I WOULD SAY HE WAS RUNNING FOR A FEDERAL OFFICE IN UTAH OR WASHINGTON OR MAYBE HE WANTS TO THE FRIST TOO RUN THE NEW WORLD ORDER THEY ARE TRYING TO INVOLK ON US UNDER KING GEORGE LOL. WELL I MUST SAY GOOD NIGHT MRS.CALIBASH WHERE EVER YOU ARE.

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - Hopefully finding a bi-guy or bi-couple to spend the day with

Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - @JSTJIM72 - OK - so if they say 'no' - just how would you explain a swingers type of bar / club to someone who's vanilla? If it was you, and you were approached in a vanilla bar, how would the converastion go?

Party on the Hill - - Hey all you swingers out there, we are trying to get ideas for adult party games for the party on April 18th,so far plan on the game (Find the Pin ),does anyone know of any ice breaker games that fit in with an adult swing house party? Any one that needs directions email [email protected] or welovlife on swingular,we heard that yahoo site was giving people problems.Hope to see everyone at the party and remember we have 4000sq ft lots of room if you are driving a long way or just party their self out and need to spend the night. John & Barbara

Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=DANDTCURIOUS][quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned. One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote] Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious? Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?[/quote] Holy shit! You mean it messes me up when I wear my MAGA hat in sexual situations (Though I prefer a more discriminatory MAGA hat "Make Adam God Again" The Mormon Vatican peeps will understand that one)? I thought everyone got turned on by Trump. Ask him... He will tell you. He is the best at ______. 🤣 i freaking loved your example by the way, hilarious and good point. Great example, totally got the visual! 🤣🤣🤣

A Place In The Lifestyle - - Well, It sounds more like a Utah club. We do not have swinger clubs here. Unless the club wishes to work at keeping people that are not in the lifestyle out, you may have to find another way to determine the swinging couples. Maybe the swinger wrist bands are a good idea at that club to identify others in the lifestyle. It would take some work on your part talking with those you may already know are in the lifestyle. You may not wish to wear them other places but it would solve a lot of problems for you in the club. Now the other question of who belongs is very difficult to answer. A lot of swingers do not swing very often or with very many others. So I see little difference between meeting one lifestyle or the other. As long as you are comfortable with your lifestyle, and asking another person if they are in the lifestyle, I do not see how you can lose. In Utah the chances are always slim that anyone will say yes straight away if they do not already know you. I would say that since it is a swinger club you have a greater chance than we do here at finding people in the lifestyle and you might even find some converts.

Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - We just need 10 more to complete the list... Any thoughts?

Too Young to be Taken Seriously? - - [quote=REN]My husband and I are interesting in joining the lifestyle, starting slow. However I've noticed the majority of people here are older. We both are twenty, is this too young to be taken seriously in the lifestyle? Should we keep at it, or come back in 10-20 years. I do understand if people want their partners to be old enough to have an adult beverage with them. But perhaps it is the maturity level? Maturity level is different for everyone. There are twenty year olds who act years older than they are, and sixty year olds who act younger than we are. To each their own I guess. I'm not asking to have everyone be my friend right now. I'm just curious as to what people think about younger swingers. What is your opinion about say twenty-five or younger couples?[/quote] My husband and I are both in our twenties and LOVE our new lifestyle. Even if the people are older it seems that they haven't been in the lifestyle for a super long time. Don't worry. Come to a party and you will have regardless

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=TOTO73]only done it once, but would love to try it again. any volunteers [/quote] I would love to volunteer to join you.

KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u