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Age differences - How do you handle it - I don't want to start a controversy, and then it cums, Why would age be an issue at all. Isn't the idea of swinging, first of all, about having fun with fantasy, and then there is the idea that swinging is not a mainstream activity; i.e., Not along the idea of "Normal" relationships or sex. Age is one of the norms in society and thus, I would think, one of those things that would go out the window if one is involved in swinging. I bring this point up simply to hear why age would be an issue... I'm sure that there are people who are old and wrinkled and have bad breath and their plates are falling out and even the queen sized outfits or the XS lingerie would not fit....I mean if the lady is leaving 2 trails behind her, in the sand and she is getting her nipples scraped by that sand AND her plates are dirty and falling out and she had halatosis... Maybe she would not meet criteria to play with... unless one is in the same home with her and she snuck into your room and gave you oral sex while you were asleep. Or maybe it's the guy with the shriveled member, and that's after viagra and Enzyte and 2 other products, and he has slipped into your room and given you oral, and of course you are a lady....But Age should not be a single defining factor as to weather to play or not.... On the other end of that when people are "too young" . Are they out of diapers, eat solid food, over the legal age in your neck of the woods, and know what sex is and they have not stopped any clocks or watches in their immediate vacinity... They should be fair GAME.... I use the word game because it also denotes play which is what swingers call sex with others, other than their spouse.... So, how is age an issue or how does it become an issue...????? Of course there is preference but why close down oportunities.....????? Seems kind of counter productive to lose oportunities. Just a nickle's worth of my thoughts on 2 hrs sleep in the last 48... Ray

Event Ideas - Can we get more events that don't center around alcohol and dancing? - [quote=TRIXIEE][quote=EUPHORICFLOODTIDES]How about pajama and lingerie porn night at the movies. The attendees come dressed for bed. Think a small Independent theater would be game?[/quote] Humph ... we TRIED to get a group to meet at the DRIVE INN theater on Riverdale Rd last year but I think we were the only ones that showed up ... NO ONE made an attempt at introductions at the vehicle we said we'd be in [/quote] Tee-hee, I'm picturing the mess left at a "small independent theater" after a swingers viewing of a porn show. How much do ya gotta pay someone to clean that one up? [em]Emo_85[/em] Then I'm picturing a porn pic being displayed on a Riverdale Drive in theater, wondering how long before the cops'd be there to bust it up 'cause of all the teenagers parked on that road out front trying to peer over the fence!! But seriously, that seems to be what I've noticed about some of the "alternate" events that get proposed -- seems like a good idea but no one shows up? It'd be fun to go to the drive-in though Trixiee, maybe we ought-a try that again when the season arrives. So does anyone know where I can get a cheap panel van?? [em]Emo_28[/em]

Friends Lists - - Maybe all swingers should move to utah hell poligamy seems to be leagal....LOL and we rebel towards th establishment personally? who would think. what a party that would be!!!

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - think i will get my walker and hobble down to the drug store and get my viagra filled and get momma some fixodent,come to think of it,to hell with the fixodent. yall yungun`s have fun,when you reach the end of your age bracket then what are you going to do

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Pete, The Don

Looks like you were wrong all the way around. LOL! You don't know what I am thinking, so that criticism was meaningless to me. Thank you for committing the acts you were trying to accuse me of. That was classic. I need not slander you, you are doing a great job of it. LOL!
Everyone else, please take a look at my initial response to WAAA1101. I answered their post with civility and honesty. Most of us do not want to be dictated to. The people with an issue with non-swinging threads, have the power to avoid them. None of these people have been able to dispute that fact. I challenge them with that very question... What is stopping you from avoiding threads you do not like? Instead of answering, they break the new forum rules by defaming me, calling me names and lying about me (Trashy). What I want these people to do is convince us that they are powerless to move on to things they enjoy. The majority spoke and told these people that we are going to talk about what we want to. Perhaps these few whiners need to move on now. eh? I sure as hell am not going to change my subject matter because a few people have an issue with the subject. They can move to the next thread if they do not like it. If these people wanted things to be cool in the forum, they wouldn't keep bringing it up. We heard your opinion and the majority disagreed. What more do you need? Get over it people. Sheesh LOL.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - its like this we all don't swing the same way, we have are likes & dislikes,and if you feel its a race thing then thats your problem.. but this isn't burger king and you can't have it your way.. so just keep playing the race card,,and it will still get you nowhere with us,, lol sorry we don't swing that way.. get over it.. theres others that do ,,so go play with them.. kristy

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - The term "swinger" is a label, plain and simple. I like to think that sexuality is about the moment, not some label. These days I tend to get pissy when someone refers to me as a "swinger". Its lumping me together with people that are not at all like me.

Just for shits and giggles? - Why are you in the lifestyle? - To be honest, I used to be one of those narrow-minded people who thought those in open marriages, swingers, etc. were just people who didn't really love their partner or couldn't "handle" a committed relationship/marriage. Wife and I then discussed the possibility a few years back, my reasoning being that before her, I really hadn't been with many women, and the ones I had been with was more a one time or several times thing, so my experiences were limited, and now that I had "learned what I was doing" a little, my mind was curious on if it was just that my wife loves me and was attracted to me, or if I could please other women. We decided after discussions to try it out. We met up with a couple that was more experienced, thrilling, and the whole experience was a roller coaster ride. Years later, while watching a particular episode of "House, M.D." that deals with a couple who is either in an open marriage or swingers (can't recall), listening to the medical staff characters assassinate the idea of nonmonogamy the way I used to with short-sighted, unfair logic, it made me reflect on how much our views on something can do a 180 when we give it a fair shot. From this, I started wondering things, one of them being whether I actually "knew" if I was straight or not, or just assumed through society and toxic masculinity. I decided that the only way to know would be to open myself up to the idea of trying it and seeing what happened. Through that, I found out that I am at least bi-curious. I've had one sexual experience with another man, and it was both pleasurable and memorable. Haven't had much opportunity outside of that yet to expand and explore further. I guess what I'm saying is we started this wanting to push our perceptions of things and find out what the reality beneath them was, and through that I have enjoyed becoming open to all sorts of new possibilities I never would've imagined. I can't wait to see what the world throws me next to test what I think I know. Thanks all who made it through the novel, I know I rambled a bit. Not a lot of safe spaces to discuss things of this nature out there.

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - The above comments are very interesting, and do promote thinking about how it all began. I grew up during the time when 'swapping' was just starting to catch hold. Swappers were married couples, and they did indeed swap partners. Single people were called 'swingers' at that time as they had many partners for sex. Basically singles did not have a steady relationhship with just one partner. An unmarried couple could be swingers, as they could go their separate ways at any time. A married couple did not easily have the option to go separate ways, so they remain swappers unless they got a divorce. Keep in mind that the two terms applied only to those that actively sought out new sex partners, and did not apply to the population in general. Over time, perhaps about 1965-1969, the word 'swapper' became a bit derogatory, so the married ones adopted the word 'swinger' as it seemed to be more lively and exciting sounding. Thus they moved into word usage territory of the singles. Today both singles and couples share the word. The meaning of words and their application change over time in the America language. As an example, the word 'Queer' changed to 'Fag' and later to 'Gay'. It took from about 1940 until about 1988 for the word 'queer' to evolve into 'gay'. It's still the same people, just a different word has been adopted that sounds more happy and exciting. To say a single man looking to get laid is not a swinger, but a single lady looking to get laid is a swinger is totally wrong. Both are either horney, or both are swingers. There can be no distinction between the two. So, where does that leave us? Today both singles and married couples share the word equally. That is, unless the American language is evolving again. Perhaps the word 'Humming Bird' (going from flower to flower for nectar) will become the singles new description.

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